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aheller5
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I wanted to know if anyone has any opinions/reviews about this effect(ice cold acaan)? it looks great!!!!
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The effect is great, probably my current favorite trick to perform. Easy and hits hard. BUT the trailer is very misleading, the effect is for the cards to be dealed face DOWN. Also there are certain restrictions about the number that get worse depending on the card called, but quite easy to overcome most of the times.

I recommend it. Great effect, very easy to perform, but the trailer is wrong.
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It can be performed face up , if you already have a preferred *****
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On Mar 24, 2017, Recoplon wrote:
The effect is great, probably my current favorite trick to perform. Easy and hits hard. BUT the trailer is very misleading, the effect is for the cards to be dealed face DOWN. Also there are certain restrictions about the number that get worse depending on the card called, but quite easy to overcome most of the times.

I recommend it. Great effect, very easy to perform, but the trailer is wrong.


False Advertising
I Purchased this Effect but what you see on the trailer is not what you get,the effect in the download is easy to do but in the trailer every card that are turned face up during the count are random, without giving anything away this is not what you receive,
Can anyone from ellusionist Comment on this please, I would like my Money Back
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On Mar 25, 2017, trickster41uk wrote:
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On Mar 24, 2017, Recoplon wrote:
The effect is great, probably my current favorite trick to perform. Easy and hits hard. BUT the trailer is very misleading, the effect is for the cards to be dealed face DOWN. Also there are certain restrictions about the number that get worse depending on the card called, but quite easy to overcome most of the times.

I recommend it. Great effect, very easy to perform, but the trailer is wrong.


False Advertising
I Purchased this Effect but what you see on the trailer is not what you get,the effect in the download is easy to do but in the trailer every card that are turned face up during the count are random, without giving anything away this is not what you receive,
Can anyone from ellusionist Comment on this please, I would like my Money Back


Just write to ellusionist and demand your money back. Seems fairly clear to me?
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Any card yes any number No ! This is not new just a different way to handle the number selection process. This was the reason I didn't use the original version it's not a true acaan.
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You should watch your download again. You can do the effect like shown in the trailer and it is mentioned in the download. You just need to know or learn a new skill that can't be mentioned here in a public forum. The way it's done in the trailer is how I'm practicing it now.
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Once you have that skill down and I do, there are better acaans that you can do without the limited number selection. The book Ment to be by John Born shows this one and even better solutions for acaan imho
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Why oh why do people continue to waste money on these garbage versions of ACAAN?
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Polish Prince ,

The issue has never been could the version in the demo be done .. No what irked many people was showing a video which requires an MD and then directly
Underneath write one of the key conditions of the effect is that no MD required which is true for a facedown dealt version of the effect . That is very misleading advert.

I have been thinking about which magic companies to release my work through and this company is off the list .

Andrew
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Aha.. I see the issue now... Thanks for pointing that out a brown 1968
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Why oh why do people continue to waste money on these garbage versions of ACAAN?

It is a puzzle that a lot of cardworkers have tried to solve but without the necessary skills or effort they will never be satisfied. A curiosity constantly looking for a better way.
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I can only repeat myself: Ice Cold Acaan is nothing new or original. It's at its core Barrie Richardson's approach from "Theater of the Mind".
Get the original if you're interested!
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On Mar 25, 2017, Nicolino wrote:
I can only repeat myself: Ice Cold Acaan is nothing new or original. It's at its core Barrie Richardson's approach from "Theater of the Mind".
Get the original if you're interested!


I cant find theatre of mind anywhere, its sold out everywhere.....do you have a link from where I could buy it?

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It is OOP, so it will be difficult to find (but oh, so worth it!) I have seen it on Amazon and Ebay's Buy it Now for approx. $75 (about twice what it was originally). You can also try your luck in other marketplaces or bidding on Amazon and see if you get lucky. Regardless, it's a great book and worth finding if you can.
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It is OOP, so it will be difficult to find (but oh, so worth it!) I have seen it on Amazon and Ebay's Buy it Now for approx. $75 (about twice what it was originally). You can also try your luck in other marketplaces or bidding on Amazon and see if you get lucky. Regardless, it's a great book and worth finding if you can.


Thanks!.
Will look on amazon and ebay

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Like most ACAAN tricks, the descriptions always leave a lot to be desired and most video demos are always of the perfect scenario. I was very disappointed after watching the video demo for Ice Cold. The single most important part for me was seeing the cards dealt face up, I almost reached for the credit card and clicked the buy now button, until I read this forum post which revealed the truth... You CANNOT deal face up. The makers reply was "in the instructions it mentions you CAN deal face up..BUT... you'll need to master another skill..." Mmmmmm But I thought I was buying what you showed me on the video...Isn't that what a video demo of a trick means..or am I missing something here!
The trick itself is half decent for an acaan, but I was already using the method (in a slightly different way, but same principle), so nothing new there. But with that all said and done.. for some, it may just be your ideal Acaan. Just wanted to have my say about the mis-leading video.
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With all this bad press, I'm surprised the "creator" has not chimed in.
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While I have the biggest issue with the false advertising (the beginning of the trailer literally begins with "this performance was not setup in any way. what you see here is exactly what happens every time.") and even Lloyd Barnes himself came here on the forums and stated that they did it face up to "misdirect magicians"... (what I call "defrauding the consumer")... I decided to not harp on it anymore and instead achieve the skill necessary to do the trick as seen in the trailer (at the additional, but I think well worth it, cost).

I've also developed a couple of solutions to the problems with Ice Cold, such as trying to convince the spectator in a 1 on 1 setting that making them change their number one or two more times "makes it more fair" with something that not only makes it seem more random, but allows a second person to be involved as well if you wish. I've also streamlined the math into very easy to understand and memorizable expressions to allow for the math to be done VERY quickly.

The way I perform Ice Cold, leaving the deck on the table with a heavy deck protector on it while I perform other tricks, allows me to perform Impromptu CAAN right before Ice Cold and still get amazing reactions, because most of the trick is done before ever touching the well protected deck to do the reveal, which allows you to focus on the acting/patter.

If anyone would like to check out a powerpoint presentation I put together, "Colder Than Ice", let me know in a DM. It walks you through taking Ice Cold to a level even higher than the face up deal you see in the trailer. It also helps you decide on which s**** to purchase and learn.
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On Mar 30, 2017, SleepyMagic wrote:
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On Mar 25, 2017, Nicolino wrote:
I can only repeat myself: Ice Cold Acaan is nothing new or original. It's at its core Barrie Richardson's approach from "Theater of the Mind".
Get the original if you're interested!


I cant find theatre of mind anywhere, its sold out everywhere.....do you have a link from where I could buy it?

Sleepy


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