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AdamMillsMagic New user 19 Posts |
Hi everyone. Please could someone let me know if the following could be performed using this app ? . .
Spectator selects a random card (no force). I tell them to remember this moment in time as we will be coming back to it at a later point and to cement the moment I would then capture an image on my phone. Phone goes away to the side and the selection is then lost into the pack shuffled and the whole deck is then returned to the spectator. I then would like to perform a very clean tossed out deck. I would instruct them to throw away cards in various different ways making a bit of fun and comedy about it all. My main question is the following. Could the card they randomly finish with match the photograph on your phone. If this is possible with this app then I am most definitely sold ? . . . |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
GAMJoker, you are absolutely correct. It's what I've been saying all along in this thread. It takes something very simple and creates an overly complex method of achieving it. No app or digital technology is necessary to create exactly the same effect.
It's all in the reflexes.
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fcchief1 Loyal user 256 Posts |
Got this the other day, and yes you could do this without the digital technology or any apps. What I like about this is that it plays to most, especially younger crowds who live on their phones and facebook. Performing walk-around in bars/pubs, it is mostly younger people I perform for so this plays really well! So far in the few times I performed last night, it got great reactions!
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
But, again, back to my original point. Why go to all the trouble of using an app, which could possibly fail to work due to a technical glitch, when you can achieve precisely the same effect by way of classic, non-digital methods?
It's all in the reflexes.
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NRmind New user 57 Posts |
How would you achieve Adam mills effect described above? (I think he meant eliminating cards not tossed out deck).
You can achieve what he is describing using this app. |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
Adam's effect can be achieved, too, sans app.
Would it be exactly as he describes? Not precisely, but it would appear essentially the same to a spectator. But, yes, the app can achieve Adam's description precisely, and I would add that his idea is superior to the routine included with the app.
It's all in the reflexes.
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NRmind New user 57 Posts |
If you're referring to some form of equivoque then sure you can approximate that effect or any free choice.
But many of us want a big toolbox, multiple ways of doing something. If we lean on equivoque elsewhere when structuring our set, it is quite helpful to have a method that actually makes the best out of genuinely free choices. Mixing methods is so very powerful and this app has loads of potential (but unfortunately is quite messy at the moment). |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
Not talking about equivoque at all, actually.
It's all in the reflexes.
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3052 Posts |
This trick is FANTASTIC
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AdamMillsMagic New user 19 Posts |
Hi guys. Sorry I did mean eliminating cards. I've always wanted the spectator to have a really free and fair experience when being instructed to throw cards away to leave just one. That it what I was hoping you could perform with Marty.
I took the plunge and purchased this effect yesterday. I practiced pretty much all yesterday afternoon with the app and tonight I performed the following effect 3 times on three separate occasions and it got a much bigger reaction to just performing the described main effect within the app tutorials. I have the spectator check all the cards are different. I asked the spectator if he believes if time travel is possible. He said no, I said I'm going to show you something that might change your perception slightly (this is all whilst I'm having him shuffle the cards). I then get him to hand me the deck. I remove one card, hand it to him with it back to him and tell him I'm going to take a photograph which shows the outcome of an event in the near future (picture is taken phone goes down to the side and I have him place the card in the middle of the deck and shuffle). I then explained that everything he is about to do from this point I have predicted. I instruct him to throw cards down in various ways (I really have fun with this part, the spectators were all laughing and choosing which packets and cards to eliminate etc). Ultimately all the spectators get very serious once they got down to the last few cards and all three of my performances tonight ended the same way. They all ended with the one card face down still not ever seeing a single card face saying that there is no way this is the card I took a photo of earlier. I get them to hold the card up as before (they still don't even know the value at this point and I give little smile unlock my phone saying this is exactly how I thought the future would look. I show them the Facebook post on my feed and tell them to check out my page themselves on their phone and obviously they can then examine all the thrown down cards too ! . . What can I say other than this app is incredible. To be able to have a completely free choice when eliminating cards in that manor has an incredible effect on spectators. I will be performing this at every opportunity ! . . |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
Adam, great job. That is a far superior effect to the one included. I will add that a nearly identical effect can be achieved without the use of the app, but kudos, sir. Really nice application of this.
It's all in the reflexes.
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simplymagicweb Inner circle Norfolk, UK 1410 Posts |
Having used the app for the past couple of weeks now, I have made the decision.... not to use it now! Why, well there are a few too many issues with it at the moment for me to use it as a pro.
Firstly, alignment. Unless the image is aligned spot on, the photo can look off. This has happened frequently for me as either me or the spectator has moved slightly as the camera is taking the snap. This has led to me having to take several photos before getting it right which is a bit boring for the specs! Secondly, the image often has ghostly pips showing, or faint lines. I have had spectators commenting about this afterwards. Thirdly, as I'm often performing surrounded then spectators can see the actual card being photographed which then changes in the photo - yes this can be addressed using audience management to an extent but nevertheless, I've still had people commenting afterwards having acquired a "sneaky" peek! I've also had times where the photo didn't upload to Facebook, and didn't save into my photos - bummer! Finally, lighting. I've had some strange "morphed" images which I can only assume was due to lighting - this has still happened with the flash on too. All of the above has made me lose confidence in using the app sadly. I'm sure the developers will sort these, but until then.... The major thing I loved was being able to post on Facebook - well Illucifer is right..... You can still do this without using the app! Indeed I've now started doing this and all the above issues have gone - BOOM! OK, the routines are slightly different, but the end result is very similar. I now start off by asking them which Social Media platform they use, open the appropriate one and take a picture and instantly post it... Hence the image goes on either Facebook, Twitter, Instagram - whatever they use... Job done. A force of the photographed card is now all that's needed - I've started using a simple invisible deck here... Anyway guys, have fun and sorry for the long post.
Magically,
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magicianphiltay Regular user Birmingham / UK 118 Posts |
Simplymagicweb thanks for the update, I was wanting to buy this, until the bugs are fixed I wont bother -
Cheers
Magic is not the suspension of reality, but the expansion of possibility, inviting us to question the limits of what we believe to be true.
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avimag51 Regular user 132 Posts |
One of the best apps out there, and good suporting facebook users group.
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fab1an New user 61 Posts |
I have some questions regarding MARTY App and I would greatly appreciate it if someone who has this App could answer them for me!
1. Once you have taken the picture with your prediction you put your phone on the table, right? Now when the spectator reveals his thought of card, can you directly point to THEIR phone to check the facebook post or do you have to handle your own phone again once they reveal their Card? So in Short: can your own phone be on the table Face down the whole time once you have taken the picture? 2. How hard is it to do this effect under bad light conditions? Thank You so much for helping me out! |
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NRmind New user 57 Posts |
1. Must handle again.
2. It isn't as dependable with improper light. No way to measure this precisely. |
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fab1an New user 61 Posts |
@NRmind
Thank you for your quick response. This really helps. I will buy this App soon. Can't wait to add this effect to my repertoire. cheers |
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shomemagic Inner circle Missouri 2232 Posts |
Is this or will this be available for Android devices?
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daniltan Elite user 477 Posts |
Quote:
On Jun 11, 2017, shomemagic wrote: It will |
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Willie mcgregor New user 80 Posts |
WMS announced it will be available on Android 17th July
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