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"This really looks like CGI" -Eric Jones

"That’s $%?# Amazing! I’m definitely using this" -Julius Dein

"This is my kind of magic! Very well made and self-contained. It looks how it should, like a Camera trick!" -Nicholas Lawrence

"Super visual. Limited only by your imagination" -Chris Webb

CGI is a system for making 3D objects pop out of a drawing. It's hand-made, and awesome. You can hold the card at your fingertips, there's no palming, no sleights..

It looks so good, you'll be doing it for yourself in the mirror. And you can start performing this the day you get it, because it comes complete with everything you need, including 3 hand-made custom props. A mini Rubik's cube, a die, and a Lego brick, all carefully modified to look and feel totally normal, yet appear out of nowhere.

CGI comes ready to perform straight out of the box. It’s easy to use and the self-contained gimmick does all the work for you.

You receive:

Custom made CGI gimmick
3 ready made gimmicks (Rubiks cube, Dice, Lego)
Custom stickers to use in your routines
Repair kit

Notes from Acar: As you probably guessed, this looks best from directly in front of you. Also, if you're OCD like me, just fold a card before you perform, that way the crease in the middle of the gimmick card won't arouse any suspicion, even if you're working super-close-up. Honestly, this is a non-issue in real-world working conditions, but hey, I said if you're OCD like me. Seriously, let's take a step-back and re-evaluate. Nobody gets suspicious when paper products have creases on them. Stop thinking like a magician! Ignore all of this if you're not working 12 inches in front of peoples' eyeballs. This is a great trick, and a beautifully done kit.
I highly recommend it.


http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/7319
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I saw the trailer just a bit ago, and came on here to see what others think... Looks good. I'm guessing the method is similar to other recent projects, but hoping that constructing custom gimmicks isn't too DIY...
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Agreed! looks really cool....waiting for reviews....anyone?? Smile
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Looks very visual.

Side note: I'm surprised Magic Tao is still in business to be honest.
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On May 10, 2017, TuneHV wrote:
Looks very visual.

Side note: I'm surprised Magic Tao is still in business to be honest.


Lol, I'm more afraid of giving them my money than I ever am with Sansminds.
Tempted by this but going to wait for a few suckers, er I mean early adopters.
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Excellent ! Chattering Teeth was Kewl ...
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I'd be interested to see this working in the real world, some live performances and feedback.
IMO the get ready to do such would be very difficult - looks great on video.

I worked on the same concept for a number of years prior to this release with a practical solution for real world performance.
In fact, also on the backs of playing cards but found for a practical routine the premise makes no sense or at least I preferred to develop something more tangible.

My development expanded to the releases of:
POP with Ellusionist - Fererro Rocher on a scratchcard with help from Brian Watson. This included stickers to change the object and Adam Wilbut came up with some great handlings with the addition of magnets to hold it open.
Appear8 - 8 ball from the front of a card box with BBM.
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I think I will take the plunge on this. This will fit into my work environment. as we have "incentives" based around Poker chips and playing cards.
based on how I believe it works I think it will be fine.
What it looks like for me....
1. Someone wins a prize, I have 3-4 cards that they choose what they want (I'd have those 3-4 items in separate pockets)
2. I leave the chosen card in one hand place the other cards in the pocket that contains the correct item chosen
3. finger palm/palm it
4. Come out of pocket with item
5. transfer card to same had
6. Produce

Here's hoping the gimmick is easy working and I can have 3-4 made up like I'd want to
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Jruiz0216 - that's actually a good routine for it. Thanks for trying it out bud.
Read on penguin messageboard about a f**p and if this works like sketch, then I'll be a bit disappointed >_<

Let us know how it goes bud Smile
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Jruiz0216 - that's actually a good routine for it. Thanks for trying it out bud.
Read on penguin messageboard about a f**p and if this works like sketch, then I'll be a bit disappointed >_<

Let us know how it goes bud Smile


I don't think the gimmick is hard to work out Smile
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If you order this from Magic Tao do you think that you will get it.
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Rob.m All orders for CGI have been shipped
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Nothing new here ,just a repeated concept
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Rip off product. Plus the rubik cube ou get (the one shown in demo at 1 min 41 on the table with the lego brick and dice) are not colured to match a normal cube, the colours are in a different permutation. That shows a suvbe with blue and green enxt to each other when the standard colouts have red and green on oppiste sides, so you wont be able to use this cube in other cube matching routines.
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Rip off product.


You noticed too lol
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Rip off product. Plus the rubik cube ou get (the one shown in demo at 1 min 41 on the table with the lego brick and dice) are not colured to match a normal cube, the colours are in a different permutation. That shows a suvbe with blue and green enxt to each other when the standard colouts have red and green on oppiste sides, so you wont be able to use this cube in other cube matching routines.


How is this a rip-off of? This and the other trick with the 8-ball are all based on using flap cards. Several tricks with the same or similar plot have been released over the years:

X-tension
X-Change
Visualize
Frame
Ink-a-Change

This concept has been done over and over again, does any trick that involve a flap card mean its a rip-off too?

p.s this is not exposure- it's clearly stated on the penguin product page what the methodology is. you're paying for the ready-made gimmick and gimmicked items
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Rip off product. Plus the rubik cube ou get (the one shown in demo at 1 min 41 on the table with the lego brick and dice) are not colured to match a normal cube, the colours are in a different permutation. That shows a suvbe with blue and green enxt to each other when the standard colouts have red and green on oppiste sides, so you wont be able to use this cube in other cube matching routines.


How is this a rip-off of? This and the other trick with the 8-ball are all based on using flap cards. Several tricks with the same or similar plot have been released over the years:

X-tension
X-Change
Visualize
Frame
Ink-a-Change

This concept has been done over and over again, does any trick that involve a flap card mean its a rip-off too?

p.s this is not exposure- it's clearly stated on the penguin product page what the methodology is. you're paying for the ready-made gimmick and gimmicked items


But if the construction of the gimmick is identical or so similar to another effect (method) which pretty much does the same thing as another release (effect) surely that's a classification of a rip-off? Also I think it's ethically poor to not have researched and contacted others who have worked on similar releases to A. check it's not the same and B. ensure you credit as best as possible.

I think the reasons I've pointed out above are the issues raised in this thread.
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On May 12, 2017, Fatgumbo wrote:
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Rip off product. Plus the rubik cube ou get (the one shown in demo at 1 min 41 on the table with the lego brick and dice) are not colured to match a normal cube, the colours are in a different permutation. That shows a suvbe with blue and green enxt to each other when the standard colouts have red and green on oppiste sides, so you wont be able to use this cube in other cube matching routines.


How is this a rip-off of? This and the other trick with the 8-ball are all based on using flap cards. Several tricks with the same or similar plot have been released over the years:

X-tension
X-Change
Visualize
Frame
Ink-a-Change

This concept has been done over and over again, does any trick that involve a flap card mean its a rip-off too?

p.s this is not exposure- it's clearly stated on the penguin product page what the methodology is. you're paying for the ready-made gimmick and gimmicked items


But if the construction of the gimmick is identical or so similar to another effect (method) which pretty much does the same thing as another release (effect) surely that's a classification of a rip-off? Also I think it's ethically poor to not have researched and contacted others who have worked on similar releases to A. check it's not the same and B. ensure you credit as best as possible.

I think the reasons I've pointed out above are the issues raised in this thread.


At least twenty previous effects have been released using the same 'GIMMICK'

Maybe better crediting, but if you're calling this one a rip-off, then the others are as well.
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It's not the method, but the premise which concerns me.

I released a playing card, with objects on the back that you 'plucked off' - that I have not seen before.
and using stickers to change the objects was used for my release POP.

Even though the creators/producers of this were aware of my work, no acknowledgment has been made to my efforts to help develop the concept.
In fact, when challenged they even argued the point I was trying to make.

Very dissapointing.....but this continues in magic so I am no longer surprised.
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On 29 October 2011, following a lengthy period of development Magic Tao released Pop Art. The basic principle behind this effect was to have an item ie. a pack of playing cards, pop out of a notebook. To the best of my
knowledge this principle was new and had not been done before. It has however, been done many times since.

At the same time 3D Realisation was also released by Magic Tao. This was based on the principle of an 8 ball appearing from a playing card; on the front of which was a sticker of an 8 ball. So, a track record from six
plus years ago of releasing effects using stickers, playing cards and real, 3D items that appear from the card or notebook.

James Keatley showed me a video of his initial idea for CGI in June 2016. Our conversations about CGI started many months before at a time when Magic Tao was working on a pocket size version of Pop Art. James’s
idea for CGI was therefore timely and CGI in its current form has now been released. CGI is an evolution of the principles behind both Pop Art and 3D realisation; that’s how magic works.

As for any similarity with work by Steve Rowe, any similarities are purely coincidental. To the best of my knowledge the gimmicks involved in CGI are different.

Where magicians work on something that doesn’t always make them a pioneer; there is every possibility that someone else has done something similar before. I believe that in 2011 the idea of making things ‘pop’ from
a playing card, or a notebook was new, had not been done before and was therefore pioneering. Anything after that is progression, not original. If there is an effect where an object ‘pop’s from a card, and it pre-dates
2010/2011, then it seems we’re all wrong!
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