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kou
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On David Blaine's recent appearance on Carson Daly's show (the episode where DB pulled out his own heart), there was some discussion between the two of them to the effect that David Copperfield has some kind of beef with Blaine. Is it just friendly rivalry, or something deeper?

(When Carson Daly mentioned to Blaine that Copperfield was bad-mouthing Blaine on the set of his Tornado of Fire stunt, Blaine seemed visibly annoyed/hurt by that revelation.)

Anyone want to add to the gossip?
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re;
Is it just friendly rivalry, or something deeper?

It's probably what's called creating a story for publicity purposes. Smile

When performing in the UK Penn and Teller used to have a go at Daniels, but they didn't really mean it.

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I thought that at first, except it wasn't Blaine who brought it up, it was Carson Daly.
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Let's not guess at anything until it's researched fully and the facts are known. Otherwise, any guessing is just that--guessing.

But beyond that, it wouldn't be surprising if Copperfield had a beef with Blaine since it seems like many, many folks in the magic community are upset with Blaine. So there's no real news here if Copperfield had a beef with Blaine--Copperfield would just be getting on the bandwagon.

See the posted discussion elsewhere at The Magic Cafe about Blaine and you'll see that the majority of the posts there are anti-Blaine. But that's not the only source--other internet sites, in magazines, on radio shows, on television and at conventions, lectures, magic groups and magic shops, the sentiment toward Blaine has been solidly anti-Blaine during the past couple of years. And I'm not taking a stand here in this post either way, but just reporting the facts, and they are facts, not opinion.
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Blaine definitely brought close-up magic some attention, although he has a personality like a block of wood and is lost without multiple camera takes and video editing. I doubt that the promised Blaine stageshow will ever materialize. He's just not a stage performer.
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Alan: Bravo. And did everyone hear that Blaine tried to crash the SAM Convention this past Friday, July 5, without registering-? And he was not allowed to enter, as it should have been! Really--check with anyone. He showed, unregistered, unannounced, with Darryl Hannah, and tried to get in, and the Convention said no! And there was an argument! Hilarious. Blaine continues to dig his hole deeper!
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I understand that Jim Zachery was the magician in charge of guarding the door who stopped Blaine from entering. Not a bright move on Blaine's part.
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I heard that story, too. I was at the IBM in San Diego and every once and awhile a gunshot sound went off at one of the booths so I would scream out, "Oops. Blaine is trying to get in." The funny thing is I didn't know about the SAM story at the time.
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The stories about Blaine and the SAM convention are true. I was there. It was one of those stupid situations that could have been avoided. Blaine just tried to walk into the dealers room with Darryl Hannah and was stopped just like anyone else without a registration badge. Jim Zachary was the "man in charge of dealers" and he stood fast at the door. Amazing how something that simple could get out of hand. All Blaine had to do was speak to someone in charge and get permission or pay a one day admittance fee but instead he decided to crash the party. The registration booth was closed by the time he arrived but any number of people could have taken his fee and let him in. Oh well, it was something you don't see all the time at conventions. There were many more memorable events going on.

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I've been getting more and more info on the Blaine SAM deal from various people who were there. My revised take on the affair is that neither side handled the situation properly and a big flap could have been avoided if anybody had exhibited a bit more judgement and tact. Instead, we have the proverbial tempest in a teapot. Pity.
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The real story runs along these lines:

Blaine wanted to get in, but didn't have a pass, and the registration desk was closed, so he left. That's it. No fight, no argument. You can read about it all at http://www.geniimagazine.com/forum
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Blaine should have to pay like everyone else, and so should Darryl Hannah. And, not being a tie person--like dozens of other friends--I don't think the Magic Castle should require people to wear ties. I don't like ties, but I love magic, and I like the Magic Castle, but I see no reason why in the world I should have to wear a tie when I go there! Some people don't like to wear ties, and some people actually think ties are unattractive, you know!! Really!
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Okay, to reiterate what Elwood said (from the thread at Genii that Steve mentioned), David and Darryl did not want to get in for free. They just wanted to get in, period. They were perfectly willing to buy a pass, but the registration desk was closed, and they asked if there was any way to let them in. When it was refused, they left; they ended up spending a ton of time hanging out outside the hotel and, later, in the bar and lobby, mingling with some attendees, signing autographs, etc.
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Whatever the case, Darryl Hannah is absolutely beautiful in "Splash." Everyone knows that, but I just thought I'd inject a positive comment. And it's interesting to note that no matter what happened at the convention, the underlying dislike of Blaine is a psychological factor in just about anything he does--including simply showing up at a convention and trying to get in, paid or not!
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Anyone who says there was no yelling or fighting over the Blaine situation must have been in another part of the convention. I was there in the doorway and there was a considerable amount of yelling going on. Yes, David and Darryl tried to enter the dealers room without a pass and were stopped by the guard. Jim Zachary is dealer chairman and refused them entry. He did want to enter unpaid and the convention heads refused. The rules are you must register in order to gain entry to convention events. Yes, the whole situation might have, could have, should have been handled more civilized but that is the way it was. Hind site is always better than foresight. I wouldn't believe everything you read in the Genii forum. But then I wouldn't believe everything you read anywhere.

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I try not to get involved in Blaine discussions, I get sick of the whining and moaning from magi who just can't enjoy/ignore but I thought this latest thing just took the biscuit.
I saw this interesting post by Jon Racherbaumer from the Genii Forum. *********************************************

http://geniimagazine.com/forum/cgi-bin/u......0226;p=2
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The Hubble telescope is able to see events that occurred five million light years ago, in space.
The electron microscope is able to enlarge things here on earth three million times.
If you combined both of these scientific marvels, the combination might -- just MIGHT, mind you -- be able to detect any interest I have in this ridiculous waste of time or in any comments on it.
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Actually, yeah, I'm with you Peter. Smile
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Think,
I suspect most people are with us, if the truth be known! Smile
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I agree, Peter. I took the time to read the Genii forum only because it's very slow today at work and I had nothing else to waste my time on. For the most part, what a load of garbage.

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