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Supernice coinmagic!

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Amazing!

I've been saying for years, this is what the progression of magic is all about. It starts with the simplicity of Matrix, and then through sheer creativity and awesome ability, it becomes something out of this world, something so much more than it ever was. This is yet another wonderful example. Just awesome!
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Ah, he learned all that from me. Smile

That looked a little too magical. I'm jealous
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Wow! That is just great. Quite simply ... magical.
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Is this for real? Come on!, I am now a true believer, Magic exists...
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I think this is awesome, but I see no actual sleight of hand at play here; only when the cards vanish though.
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That's just the beauty of it. Sleights or no sleights, it's the end result that counts. And in this case, it looks like real magic!
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Yeah. Effect is everything!
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Stunning and artistic.

Looks great. Maybe too perfect for my sensibilities but I liked the routine it sure went over well with the judges and audience as magical. Bravo!
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Very magical in execution and timing.
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Like it or not, we are in an intensely visual age. magic that is INTENSELY visual matches the spirit of this age, and
is what is almost required for a magic trick to be perceived as magical. so kudos to you, Will!!!
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In the early 80's a man from France did a comedy matrix at a Desert Seminar in Las Vegas.
He also did a rocks over the head bit. I can't remember his name.
That performance memory plus a nod to Del Ray- through this magician brought the AGT crowd to its feet and a smile to my face.
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All I can say to that routine is HOLEY MOLEY (insert another word). I don't care how it was done. That was just like what magic should look like. Every time
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Wow! Just wow!
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I thought the effect was great, although hard to follow on from in terms of instant visuals if he progresses. I have no issues with the gaffed/no sleight of hand nature of it either, as when you see the work that went into Tommy Wonder's table etc., is this not just a high tech update?

I do have concern that 'real world magic' may struggle to get TV exposure in the future, but then again for real people, not such an issue. For a few years, I was regularly asked if I could put a phone in a bottle (Dynamo), but I had a few lines and effects which meant that it was never a problem.

I generally take the view that if people get interested in magic and it gets exposure, then that's a good thing.
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This may dredge up discussions of the "too perfect theory" with all of its ramifications.

When the observers thinks "must be video trick" or "pre-shot streaming video" or "special table" - whatever, the following question mist be "where is the magic?"

Yes, this is "magical" by modern definition, but I question that it triggers the same internal responses in the mind of the observer as a live performance without special props.

Not judging here. I might use "run-rabbit-run" with kids (self working prop), but don't feel it is 'magic" in the same way as having two coins change places in spectator's hands.

What is the performer trying to accomplish? What will the observer remember and relate to others?

If a friend asks for a demonstration of magic, I will not refer them to this video. If they ask, "Can astonishment be entertaining?" I might.
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True story: earlier this evening I was at the Castle and a few of us were having this almost exact same discussion regarding that routine; the ramifications for the future of magic and audience expectations Etc.. a couple hours later I was doing some coin magic for some nice folks and they asked, almost jokingly, if I could do that trick the guy did on AGT. I did Dean Tonight Show Matrix and Dean's assembly with backfire (unpublished) and they said something along the lines of "wow it's one thing to see it on TV but when you see it in real life right under your face it's so amazing!" We've all heard people tell us this before and I think we will all continue to..

Regarding methodology I will just say the best way I've found to figure out almost any trick is to look for the superfluous caveats.. even if it doesn't use sleight of hand moves in the way that we normally think of them if involves a lot of timing, coordination, Rhythm, direction, and skill; so in the long run it's kind of the same thing.. Methodology aside that was a totally amazing routine!! So fun!!
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Poof, I am not sure I agree with your post, this is one of the most entertaining pieces of magic I have seen. Lot of people watched in person and many more on TV saw a miracle happened, what could be wrong with that. Almost all Coppefield effects and most of P&T are heavily gimmicked. Will you have the same question with their approach on where the magic is going? At the end is the intention of any art to entertain/impress/dazzle people?
Also adding the video in slow motion is showing to everybody how the trick works, not cool with the artist, It should be removed.

I think that Jonathan post, that the trick is too perfect for his taste could brought the point home in a better way.

Also Tyler_rabbit post above shows something interesting, thanks to the AGT, he was able to show a similar trick to a group of people and for those people that watch it Tyler was as good (or better) as Will, really a nice moment for Tyler. The method used is only a magician discussion that disregard the actual moment of magic that happens in the eyes of the spectator.
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Dean Dill's Tonight Show Matrix is published in book and on a Reel Magic video.

However the kid did that coin work, it looked great
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