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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
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On Nov 23, 2017, David Numen wrote: Agreed! These Penguins Marked Cards work just fine and no one is the wiser. DMCs are very nice too but not necessary for the regular sort of deception to be successful. I guess cheating in a card game, DMCs would be great, but for most card magic effects, nice but not necessary. Plus these cheap($) Penguin Marked Cards can be mixed with regular bikes and no one would ever know the difference...I know, I do this all the time myself. Generally, they are just perfect for all the things mentioned above, plus easy as heck to quickly read for the magi. What's not to like?
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DynaMix Inner circle 1148 Posts |
These are now my standard deck used in walkaround. Haven’t been called out yet.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I know I should read the whole thread but are these bikes ? I don’t want maidens or mandolins as it’s for something specific for bikes .Thanks for the answer Tarik 🙂
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JasonL2112 Regular user 169 Posts |
Maiden, just like it shows on the site. And these are fantastic. Even if they won't work for your intended purpose, they are still worth the very minimal investment.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Thanks Jason I thought I read once they were and certainly seem a deck worth having . I have a new effect I want to release and although markings aren’t essential they would be helpful . I want to mass produce tbese and I just know bike backs would just be most peoples preference particularly when you are looking to possibly sell a few thousand decks then it’s not a marketing mistake I want to chance . Very best wishes Tarik 🙂
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
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On Jan 19, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote: Maidens and Mandolins are in fact "Bikes". The bikes nickname is because they are "Bicycle Brand" manufactured by the USPCC. Do you mean "standard" (formerly known as "rider back")?
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JasonL2112 Regular user 169 Posts |
Agree with Poof-Daddy... They are "Bicycle Branded" with the Maiden back pattern. I've never had anybody call out back designs between Rider back, Mandolin, or Maiden.
While I wouldn't blend Maiden into a Rider deck, as long as they are all the same backs it will fly by virtually anyone. All of that said, Bicycle will no longer allow gimmicked cards to be produced with the traditional Rider back. Unless something has changed very recently.. Quote: On Jan 19, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote:
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
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On Jan 19, 2018, JasonL2112 wrote: More specifically, US Playing Card Co will no longer print cards with modified Rider back designs. If it's a Rider back, they want it to be pure. They will however still print gimmicked cards with Rider backs and modified faces (except the Ace of Spades). |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Yes Tim correct as 52/1 is exactly that and I agree I even use little door all the time and that is a maiden I believe and certainly not a rider back but no one notices . I meant riders so my mistake as I just think potential buyers would be slightly put off if they were not riders and it would dent sales but I may well be wrong . It’s food for thought so will buy a few decks maiden bikes off Penguin and see . Thanks for the help guys Tarik 🙂
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magicjack1977 Loyal user Louisville, KY 213 Posts |
I just got a Penguin Marked deck in the mail today and my 10 year old son and 12 year old daughter, who had no idea it was a marked deck, noticed the marks almost instantly!! All I said was that I got a new type of Bicycle Deck with Maidens on the back instead of bike riders and they saw the clearly visible marks. I was actually quite amazed they saw them so quickly. Don't think I'll be using these in performance.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Thanks for the input magic Jack 1977 that has saved me buying these Tarik 🙂
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XaviumLord New user Ohio 68 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2018, Tarik Flash wrote: Why? Because someone who called attention to the backs of the cards got caught with the marks? When the decks have glowing review everywhere else, likely by people who didn't pull a pack of cards out and say "look how these backs are different than the usual"? |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On Jan 22, 2018, XaviumLord wrote: I agree, not a fair test. Yes, if you are looking for something you can find the marks. These decks have never claimed to have the most well concealed markings. Their strength is how easy they are to read, especially helpful for those with less than great eyesight like me. |
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magicjack1977 Loyal user Louisville, KY 213 Posts |
All I said was I got a new style of cards. They noticed the marks instantly
They should've been focusing on the maidens, yet almost instantaneously noticed the marks. Not good enough for me. Sorry. I'll stick with my BW marked deck which has never been noticed. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I wanted riders anyway really so these being too obvious and maidens has swung them against me . I have great eyes again now as just paid thousands of pounds for refractive eye lense replacement to avoid glasses so all my rider marked decks with tiny marks I can see again anyway Tarik 🙂
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ULockJustice Loyal user Columbus, OH 201 Posts |
Magicjack, how familiar with cards and magic in general are your children? (I'm not calling you out, I just think that they might have minds that work a little differently and be able to see things other people don't consider.) I've been using these cards for over a year and never been called out on them. My theater show has a projection screen ten feet wide over my head and these are shown to the audience for over an hour and no one has ever called them out. These even fly by magicians if you don't mention them. I've used them at a magic shop in Ohio for months, and no one cottoned onto the fact that I was using a marked deck until I started discussing an effect I was working on that relied on the marks. Two guys walked out of the room angry with themselves that even though they knew about the Maiden backs they never did the arithmetic and connected the previous effects had used marks.
One further thing I'll say is that I've blended rider back and mandolin into these and no one has ever said anything. I actually forgot that I had been using a mandolin joker in one of the Gen 1 decks that didn't have a joker, and only noticed it after using the deck in live performance after a week. I keep seeing people comment on how visible the marks are, or being nervous about mixing visually similar gaffs, and I think it's the usual running without being chased. Maybe your audiences are more attentive than mine. I've just never had a bad experience with these cards, and they have saved me on a few occasions when I really messed up bad and needed extra information to still pull off a miracle. I think if you are working on a regular basis and doing magic for real people these are the absolute best investment you can make in your act, and regular use with them will put you at ease over the marks and back design.
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On Jan 22, 2018, magicjack1977 wrote: Why would you not at least give them a chance especially since they are effective for so many?
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JustJoshinMagic Special user Montreal, QC 965 Posts |
So a few points. The difference between Maiden and Riderback are very minimal. I’ve mixed Maiden and Rider backed cards and no one has noticed. This is including magicians. Using a Maiden back deck won’t look weird you your audience. And you can still use your gaffs as you like.
As for the markings, unless someone is purposely looking for markings, they won’t find it. I perform next to the biggest university in the US and this is my deck of choice. I’ve prob used them several hundred times and have never been busted. If you don’t treat it like a marked deck and you treat it like a cheap deck, no will know. Heck I even make a joke about “these cards aren’t marked right” as I flip their card over to look at it directly. This does two things. If I needed a marked deck, why would I have to flip it over. And if the cards were marked, I would never tell them to look for the marks. These cards get my highest recommendation.
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tomdeg Veteran user 302 Posts |
Ordered a RED & a BLUE today!!
Having access to the vids on Penguin, I must say, some good stuff there. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I still much prefer riders personally regards Tarik 🙂
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