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On Jun 5, 2017, magic maniac wrote:
Really like the fact that he came out with a psychological premise (Sherlock) but interspersed his performance with reveals that couldn't be accomplished through deduction. This goes out to all the naysayers that believe the psychological approach limits your options for material.

Or it means that he demonstrates a grab-bag of wildly inconsistent powers.

I'm not a fan of the white cat named Oscar kicker ending, which plainly shows that certain elements were predetermined. It prompts backtracking which is way too easy in such a short act. Yes, Derren Brown has used this sort of kicker at the end of his full-evening shows, but due to the far greater length of his show, important details have the time to become fuzzy and misremembered. That's not the case with a 5-minute AGT act.
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On Jun 5, 2017, magic maniac wrote:
Really like the fact that he came out with a psychological premise (Sherlock) but interspersed his performance with reveals that couldn't be accomplished through deduction. This goes out to all the naysayers that believe the psychological approach limits your options for material.

Or it means that he demonstrates a grab-bag of wildly inconsistent powers.

I'm not a fan of the white cat named Oscar kicker ending, which plainly shows that certain elements were predetermined. It prompts backtracking which is way too easy in such a short act. Yes, Derren Brown has used this sort of kicker at the end of his full-evening shows, but due to the far greater length of his show, important details have the time to become fuzzy and misremembered. That's not the case with a 5-minute AGT act.

Tim, in general, I agree with you, but not in this particular case. Colin has demonstrated four effects. He guessed occupations of two people, guessed in wich hands the coin was (with four jury members), revealed what one woman was thinking about and then there was a prediction. He only prediced the ending of one effect and this may be considered as his understandig of how people think.
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Tim, in general, I agree with you, but not in this particular case. Colin has demonstrated four effects. He guessed occupations of two people, guessed in wich hands the coin was (with four jury members), revealed what one woman was thinking about and then there was a prediction. He only predicted the ending of one effect and this may be considered as his understanding of how people think.


You just need to take a quick look at the comment section and you'll find Tim is right.
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Tim, in general, I agree with you, but not in this particular case. Colin has demonstrated four effects. He guessed occupations of two people, guessed in wich hands the coin was (with four jury members), revealed what one woman was thinking about and then there was a prediction. He only predicted the ending of one effect and this may be considered as his understanding of how people think.


You just need to take a quick look at the comment section and you'll find Tim is right.

There are very few comments to draw certain conclusions, and most of them concern the method by which he did it. But I understand Tim's point of view and as I said partly agree with him.
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I think in the context of this being an audition the kitty was perfect. At this point the job is not to confound the YouTube kiddies who have speculated both wildly and correctly on pretty much every single audition or televised piece of magic. Colin's objective was to impress those 4 judges long enough for them to say "It's a yes from me". The other objective to fit in with the needs of the production company is to make 2-3 minutes of good tv.

Colin achieved those aims. He has performed that routine or variants of it several times on UK tv without the kicker kitty ending but in that context in that moment the kitty did the job as evidenced by both the audience and judges reactions. Also the number of my layman friends who have shared this on FB indicates that the general viewing public loved it.

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I'm glad the comment section was brought up. I'm a huge Colin fan but the sheer number of people correctly guessing the method(s) is quite sobering. This is on FB, YouTube, and regarding both the which hand and the kicker elements. And these are clearly not magicians or mentalists.
The time compression is certainly a factor. It's like the opposite of time misdirection.
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The cold, hard fact when it comes to performing any kind of magic or mentalism on TV is the certainty that your methods will be exposed, either in the comments section of social media, or on one of the internet sites specifically dedicated to exposing secrets. There is no longer any way to avoid it -- it's now part of life. I think mentalists are even more of a target for those wanting to expose because whether you are claiming to read minds, or body language - those doing the exposing seem to take even more delight in proving that you are really only doing "tricks".
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That said - I loved Colin's performance!! Not a single wasted moment!
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I think in the context of this being an audition the kitty was perfect. At this point the job is not to confound the YouTube kiddies who have speculated both wildly and correctly on pretty much every single audition or televised piece of magic. Colin's objective was to impress those 4 judges long enough for them to say "It's a yes from me". The other objective to fit in with the needs of the production company is to make 2-3 minutes of good tv.

Colin achieved those aims. He has performed that routine or variants of it several times on UK tv without the kicker kitty ending but in that context in that moment the kitty did the job as evidenced by both the audience and judges reactions. Also the number of my layman friends who have shared this on FB indicates that the general viewing public loved it.

Mark


Mark, are you saying Colin's only objective was to entertain the crowd and judges with his performance and not adhere to some ideal of what mentalist should be ? That's crazy talk !!! You need to be careful or the mentalism police will have you locked away for good.
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The cold, hard fact when it comes to performing any kind of magic or mentalism on TV is the certainty that your methods will be exposed, either in the comments section of social media, or on one of the internet sites specifically dedicated to exposing secrets. There is no longer any way to avoid it -- it's now part of life. I think mentalists are even more of a target for those wanting to expose because whether you are claiming to read minds, or body language - those doing the exposing seem to take even more delight in proving that you are really only doing "tricks".


This is so true!! It feels like a nail in the coffin when you see methods exposed, for no other gain than views. The sad thing is
most are merely curious an not students of our craft or care for it. The only way things can be protected is with the assistance
of the production team and good editing. Enter Peter Turner....he would fry them into believers....
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The cold, hard fact when it comes to performing any kind of magic or mentalism on TV is the certainty that your methods will be exposed, either in the comments section of social media, or on one of the internet sites specifically dedicated to exposing secrets. There is no longer any way to avoid it -- it's now part of life. I think mentalists are even more of a target for those wanting to expose because whether you are claiming to read minds, or body language - those doing the exposing seem to take even more delight in proving that you are really only doing "tricks".


This is so true!! It feels like a nail in the coffin when you see methods exposed, for no other gain than views. The sad thing is
most are merely curious an not students of our craft or care for it. The only way things can be protected is with the assistance
of the production team and good editing. Enter Peter Turner....he would fry them into believers....

Unfortunately about the video editing and the use of stooges they speak on the Internet even more than about the methods that we use. Pre-show work, dual reality all can be exposed on Internet. But there is good news. I noticed that we often exaggerate the power of the Internet. People are looking for information in which they are already interested, so most of the people we perform for, have no idea how it's done. In addition, many people are fairly stable in their belief systems, so even a lot of exposures do not change their beliefs.
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Colin is brilliant! Not often do we see fast paced mentalism that actually works and is entertaining. Colin nailed it!
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Wow. Hats off to you, Colin
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I cant wait to see him next time
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Wow I just saw this am a huge fan of Colin and cant wait to see him next time
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High quality act, thoroughly enjoyed it!
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Extremely entertaining, awesome job.
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Very entertaining, although I do agree with Tim re the ending...
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To illustrate Colin's incredible grasp of showmanship, in the Illusionists show his finale caused 2000 people in the audience to issue a collective gasp. If you have ever done or experienced that, know hard it is to accomplish.
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