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magicman700 New user 34 Posts |
Hi guys,
Just wondering, how many people in the world today can pull miracles like this besides Uri Geller? From training CIA Agents on remote viewing to moving a football from a flying helicopter around the famous Wembley stadium, this guy is phenomenal! He has done tons of other feats and made it big. Yet I don't understand why many magicians/mentalists are unhappy with him. I guess envy is a human instinct! Mentalism owes him a lot, as he did make it popular. Credit must be given to him for becoming a legend. Found this clip, quite remarkable I must admit: https://vimeo.com/221014781 What do you think guys?? |
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
One person's ethical line is different from another's. Randi seems to hate anyone who claims to be legit psychic, and a lot of people agree with his stance.
I love that Geller was able to take spoon bending and a couple of other minor feats and turn them into a major career. That's inspirational. However, apparently there were times he took money for "helping" to find missing persons and plenty of people find that to be rather distasteful. That would be a reason people would be unhappy with him. I remember seeing him on TV as a kid and being amazed that he could make a seed sprout in his hands. That one stuck with me a whole lot more than the bent spoon. -Patrick |
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Tom G Inner circle 2895 Posts |
Back in that time he was everywhere, TV, newspapers, magazines, you couldn't not know who he was. Like him or hate him he built an incredible career.
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Luccky Regular user 107 Posts |
Pablo Escobar and Ted Bundy did an incredible career too... Geller's career doesn't justify to swindle people.
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magicman700 New user 34 Posts |
Luccky,
If you think Pablo Escobar and Ted B. had a 'career', you seriously need to Google : Uri Geller. Not sure where you are getting articles that he 'swindles' people, but good to check 'em out! |
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
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On Jun 11, 2017, Mr. Woolery wrote: Randi, and others ( I include myself) equate modern day psychics to the Victorian parasites who preyed on the bereaved and the vulnerable. The term "legit psychic" is an oxymoron and anybody who contributed to Geller's millions after seeing the cringeworthy and totally embarrassing exposure on the Johnny Carson show is minus the 'oxy'. If Geller is legit he could have taken Randi's million dollars, they dislike each other intensely so why not? I think we all know the answer.
Use the FORCE Luke.
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jstreiff Special user 701 Posts |
Certainly everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But it might be wise to actually read the published research to become better informed.
John
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
I said anyone who claims to be a legit psychic. There is enough body of evidence for the existence of psi that dismissing it out of hand is just as much evidence of bias as accepting a person's claims without proper testing.
As far as it goes, I truly admire Geller's ability to stay in character for a lifetime. He took a few effects and turned them into a career for himself, studies by scientists, and a very high-profile career for a magician turned arch-skeptic. Not many others can claim as much. He also changed the public perception of psychic abilities, which is amazing on its own. Patrick |
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
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On Jun 16, 2017, Mr. Woolery wrote: and yet (unless I am ill informed) Randi's $million remains unclaimed?????
Use the FORCE Luke.
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Jerskin Inner circle 2497 Posts |
Uri Geller doesn't need $1 million
GrEg oTtO
MUNDUS VULT DECIPI |
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
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On Jun 16, 2017, Jerskin wrote: ..the comment is obvious and facile.
Use the FORCE Luke.
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Tom G Inner circle 2895 Posts |
At the same point even at "odds" with one another Randi and Uri helped each others career.
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts |
My understanding is that the million is no longer being offered. But so what? Being unable to convince a group of skeptics of something they have decided already does not exist is not very surprising.
-Patrick |
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magicman700 New user 34 Posts |
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On Jun 16, 2017, art85y wrote: Come on guys, a million is pocket change to Geller..He doesn't need it. Between, you should do some research on Randi's bogus operation where he sets impossible conditions in order to get the dough. And, don't forget that Randi kept the $1mil untouched in a FIXED DEPOSIT account. Randi can live of the interest with that alone! So, who's real now? |
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
Magicman700[/quote]
...where he sets impossible conditions... [/quote] The conditions are only impossible because you need true paranormal abilities to satisfy them. Isn't that the idea of laboratory conditions? To make it impossible for the fakers (And Gellers).
Use the FORCE Luke.
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
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On Jun 16, 2017, Mr. Woolery wrote: All scientific enquiry should be from a skeptical standpoint, having pre-conceived notions or bias is bad science... ...being a skeptic does not render you incapable of, or unwilling to, accept convincing evidence.
Use the FORCE Luke.
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
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magicman700 wrote: 'pocket change or not if he could pass the challenge he would milk the publicity and multiply the £million dollars again many times over'
Use the FORCE Luke.
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MultiSlacker New user GA 59 Posts |
If ANY type of psychic "powers" etc. are real, and all one does is bend frigg'n spoons, they are defacto unethical and should be called out.
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Papa Legba Special user home-an unremarkable spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy 750 Posts |
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On Jun 18, 2017, MultiSlacker wrote: I could not agree more.
Use the FORCE Luke.
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Raum Loyal user 227 Posts |
If Randy had a big red button with the inscription "Erase all psychics from this reality or history" he would never have pressed it. Because right after that he will become an ordinary magician. It think your "war" is meaningless.
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