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Yea keep clinging because AFTER HER EARTHLY life she was assumed body and soul into heaven. That is indeed in the Bible is it not?
Danny Doyle
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On Jul 19, 2017, RNK wrote: Is there a reason why you choose to put your faith in the Bible and not, say, the Quran or the Hindu Vedas, or some other religious book? If we all have “sin”, and then we become perfect and sinless after we die, then what is the purpose of hell? Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Jul 19, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote: Are you guys arguing whether a fictional character died a normal death? Or just if the bible says she did?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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When the worlds of gambling and magic meet there is always confusion and as it is with the worlds of gambling and magic so it is with the worlds of politics and religion. The noble profession of politics and religion have given us many fanatics who have combined the two and then wreaked havoc.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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On Jul 19, 2017, NYCTwister wrote: Oh I am not saying it is fact.
Danny Doyle
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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If it is all well and good for the Pope to mix politics with religion then is what is good for the goose good for the gander?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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0pus Inner circle New Jersey 1739 Posts
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On Jul 19, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote: Yes I did. Some theologians hold that “having completed the course of her earthly life” does not mean she 'died.' She simply completed her mission. I am not saying I agree with this, but my understanding of Catholic doctrine is that she was born without sin; there is no doctrine that I am aware of that requires a belief that she died or did not die. Doctrine is silent on the matter, notwithstanding the statements made by various popes. To Magnus's point that she was not sinless - I also think that there is no Catholic doctrine that holds that despite being born without sin, Mary was not sinless during the course of her life. Nor does any doctrine hold that she remained sinless during her life. Again, I believe that doctrine is silent on this matter as well. |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On Jul 20, 2017, 0pus wrote: I believe that you are correct on all points here.
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Jul 20, 2017, 0pus wrote: So, Mary was somehow born without "original sin", became a sinner (because who can avoid that), and then was chosen by god to impregnate - with himself?
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On Jul 19, 2017, R.S. wrote: Yes Ron, because there is more physical evidence that has been discovered in regards to Jesus' existence than any other. And the purpose of hell is for those who have not chosen to believe and accept that Jesus is our Creator, King and Savior who was sent by God to atone for our sins by being tortured and killed will not be saved and spend the rest of their days after this life in constant suffering and pain. RNK
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NYCTwister Loyal user 267 Posts
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On Jul 20, 2017, RNK wrote: And you believe this BECAUSE it's in the bible?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Pope Francis cited St. Basil of Caesarea’s description of capitalism as “the dung of the devil.” Capitalism has made men and women slaves to greed, and has spread death, destruction and poverty throughout the world. Global (read, Western) capitalism is the colonialism of our time. Its agents are rapacious multinationals, international loan agencies, and certain “free trade” treaties, which only enrich the 1 per cent. “Human beings and nature must not be at the service of money,” the Pope said, because “that economy destroys Mother Earth.”
And I would not argue with him.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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Well this should bring an end to this thread pretty quickly.
Danny Doyle
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On Jul 20, 2017, RNK wrote: Hi RNK, Thanks for responding. There's much to discuss here. Would you be willing to take this discussion private? I think this would be an interesting conversation, but I don't think this is the place to do it. Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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