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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts	Posted: Jul 27, 2017 07:58 pm 0 Quote: On Jul 27, 2017, Sealegs wrote: I wonder if Steve Brooks can open up a separate section of the Café where you boys can bat back and forth and have a go at each other? it might stop, what seems like, every thread in this section of the Café from falling into the same dull miasma that this one is now in. Am I not allowed to defend myself against the attacks? See above and see who started it. I am only answering questions. Tom The Daycare Magician Book https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/
Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2597 Posts	Posted: Jul 27, 2017 09:58 pm 0 I was just commenting on how it looks from the perspective someone not involved in the back and forth. You, Danny, Mindpro and anyone else can of course do as you please. Neal Austin "The golden rule is that there are no golden rules." G.B. Shaw
TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts	Posted: Jul 27, 2017 10:41 pm 0 I agree it looks bad and I should know better than to get suckered in like that. My bad. Anyway, Man went to the Doctor and he gave him 2 months to live. So the man shot him so that the Judge could then give him 30 years. Now to get back on topic and like I said, I have always viewed the fake it bit like Brian described. Tom The Daycare Magician Book https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/
CurtWaltermire Special user Curtis The Mentalist 505 Posts	Posted: Jul 28, 2017 02:23 pm 0 Quote: On Jul 27, 2017, Sealegs wrote: I wonder if Steve Brooks can open up a separate section of the Café where you boys can bat back and forth and have a go at each other? it might stop, what seems like, every thread in this section of the Café from falling into the same dull miasma that this one is now in. Great idea! We can call it something like "The Gym--A Forum Where Unlike-Minded Magicians and Mentalists Can Duke It Out." Just trying to insert a little levity here, feeble though the attempt may be. Curtis Waltermire Mentalist/Magician/Speaker/Actor/Grandpa/Cool Dad & Above-Average Husband CurtisTheMentalist.com YouTube Channel My Touring Public Show "The Mastermind Show" Check Out My Podcast "The Mastermind Show with Curtis The Mentalist"
CurtWaltermire Special user Curtis The Mentalist 505 Posts	Posted: Jul 28, 2017 02:31 pm 0 Quote: On Jul 27, 2017, TomBoleware wrote: Quote: On Jul 27, 2017, Sealegs wrote: To my mind, interesting as it was, Curtis' story doesn't have any bearing on the phrase, 'Fake it 'till you make it'. Brian expressed, with more eloquence than I would have done, the manner in which I've always heard and interpreted this phrase being used. Same here. I thought Brian said it well, and I too think of it as building confidence, not misleading prospects and clients. Tom By the way, Tom, I did in fact elaborate more on the connection between the story and the "fake it till you make it" phrase in a subsequent comment. Not sure if you noticed that or not. I also made a follow up comment to clarify things a bit more on the blogpost itself. Not that it necessarily matters as it really doesn't change much other than clear up any confusion with respect to the video. I don't disagree with what Brian or anyone else has said about the well-meaning intention of the phrase, I just believe there is better ways of promoting the same idea without the use of tricky and erroneous catch-phrases like this that are so rampant in the so-called "motivational" world. Curtis Waltermire Mentalist/Magician/Speaker/Actor/Grandpa/Cool Dad & Above-Average Husband CurtisTheMentalist.com YouTube Channel My Touring Public Show "The Mastermind Show" Check Out My Podcast "The Mastermind Show with Curtis The Mentalist"
TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts	Posted: Jul 28, 2017 03:00 pm 0 Quote: On Jul 28, 2017, CurtWaltermire wrote: By the way, Tom, I did in fact elaborate more on the connection between the story and the "fake it till you make it" phrase in a subsequent comment. Not sure if you noticed that or not. I also made a follow up comment to clarify things a bit more on the blogpost itself. Not that it necessarily matters as it really doesn't change much other than clear up any confusion with respect to the video. I don't disagree with what Brian or anyone else has said about the well-meaning intention of the phrase, I just believe there is better ways of promoting the same idea without the use of tricky and erroneous catch-phrases like this that are so rampant in the so-called "motivational" world. Yes I did notice that and thanks for doing it. And I do completely agree that one should NEVER outright lie to prospects and clients. Present your best side, I say of course you should. My point is we shouldn’t change the real definition of ‘Fake it Until You Make It’ and make it sound like it is dishonest to use it in anyway. I’m a big believer that it works and there is absolutely no reason one should sit around and wait for years in order to say I am paying my dues. I say step up to the plate and pretend that you are as good as the rest and then work hard to prove it. One can simply Google it to find the true meaning. Of course we all are free to do as we like. Tom The Daycare Magician Book https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/amazekids/the-daycare-magician/ My Blog - https://boleware.blogspot.com/
Tim Zager Loyal user Kansas City 222 Posts	Posted: Jul 31, 2017 05:11 pm 1 Quote: On Jul 26, 2017, CurtWaltermire wrote: Do you feel like you're "faking" it until you "make it?" No. What helps me more is an "Act As If" attitude. I try to model succesful people who have already achieved what I'm trying to do. I'm constantly asking myself "What Would xxxx Do?" . . Make sure your customers never lose your information, with a Digital Business Card.
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