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pancho247
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I usually do my own hands off ACAAN from a shuffled deck and then Eugene burgers OOTW (if that counts)
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I sometimes do the Jack's ACAAN from his DVD, it is awesome!
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I bought an effect from Unleashyourdreams, years ago, called Skullcrusher. The principle behind the effect is brilliant, and I would love to know the history behind it...the website gives no credit to anybody. I love this effect, and it has always been a favorite of mine. You can play it up as telepathy, or present yourself as a master of human psychology, either way it kills. If anyone has any more info about this one please do share.


Thanks, Mr. Caveman, for posting this!!

Just finished reading the method. WOW! (Never came across it before)
Sent a request, 'across the pond', asking who is credited for it?

If I find out, I'll let you know.

Thanks again, Smile
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I can also recommend the mentalism effect that can be done with a new bought deck of cards over the phone from Mark Spelmann. I would need to look up the name of the routine.
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Just this evening I was looking at Predict-A-Mania II from Larry Becker's World of Super Mentalism and thinking I should give it a try (so not my favorite now, but...?) Deck of cards, couple pieces of paper and something to write with. Might want to poke at it.

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The thought-of-card-to-pocket from Benjamin Earle's Past midnight also fits nicely the theme of mentalism with an unprepared deck Smile
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I've always enjoyed performing a two person version of the classic Psychic Stop from Expert Card Technique. Still one of the most beautiful mental effects in card magic.
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Leo Boudreau - The Faro and the Princess (Imagine being able to perform the classic Paul Fox effect wherein you reveal the mental selections of 4 participants with a borrowed and spectator-shuffled deck and with NO stacks, NO cribs, and NO memory!)

Paul Vigil - Diplopia.
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Sudo - which of Boudreau's publications contains this effect?
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It isn't in those, Mark.

It was published in Harry Lorayne's Apocalypse Vol. 17, No. 11. If you have the hardbound versions, then it is located in the 4th Volume (16-20) on page 2430.

I almost wish I didn't mention it here now because it really is *that* good! (And oh so easy.)

The name "Boudreau" about says it all. Smile
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I didn't read the whole thread so if this has already been mentioned then please forgive me.
I have a version of Larry Becker's Kolossal Killer an original idea by Kenton Knepper.

In the version I do there is only one card used and it can be any card, I choose. So If asked
to do something with a deck of cards, I simply remove a card from the deck and go into my
linguistics, leading the participant to the card I tabled.

It's the only thing I need to do impromptu with a deck of cards, as it's that strong.
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I tell them to put the deck away, think of any card then reveal it using my Isolation technique.

Other than that I use my Springboard to teach the spectator how to read a mind or use ten cards and two spectators for a hands off "ESP style match up" performed by two spectators making them the stars (Tattle Tailed).

And I agree, Diplopia and The Crusade are both fantastic routines that I have used myself to great effect!

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I do have to re-read springboard.
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On Aug 17, 2017, Caveman wrote:
I bought an effect from Unleashyourdreams, years ago, called Skullcrusher. The principle behind the effect is brilliant, and I would love to know the history behind it...the website gives no credit to anybody. I love this effect, and it has always been a favorite of mine. You can play it up as telepathy, or present yourself as a master of human psychology, either way it kills. If anyone has any more info about this one please do share.


Thanks, Mr. Caveman, for posting this!!

Just finished reading the method. WOW! (Never came across it before)
Sent a request, 'across the pond', asking who is credited for it?

If I find out, I'll let you know.

Thanks again, Smile
Sixten


I have the information you boys are looking for. Smile

While Skullcrusher is a decent effect, it is hardly new and is actually a step BACKWARDS in terms of evolution. That said, Mr. Beckett's idea of doing this over the phone or while your back is turned is an interesting wrinkle, though nothing revolutionary.

The origins of the method begins with Bill Murata's "Waikiki Shuffle Location". T.A. Waters published a routine featuring it titled "Waikikut" in "Deckalogue" (1982), which was later republished in T.A.'s "Mind, Myth, and Magick" book. However, Waters was not the first to publish a routine featuring Murata's "Waikiki Shuffle".

Harry Lorayne has a FANTASTIC routine using the Murata concept. Rather than divining one card, he divines two cards and without needing to alter the procedure! And if that weren't enough, he has a kicker climax in the form of a prediction that is in full view throughout the entire performance! It is an absolute gem of a routine.

Harry first published this routine in "The Magic Book" (1977). He also features this effect (titled Ultra Location Prediction) on his "Best Ever!" DVD - Volume 2.

It's true - the GOLD is in the old books. Smile
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It's true - the GOLD is in the old books. Smile

So true, Sudo.
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I think I've told this story before: Years and years ago I devastated a group of card guys at the Castle with Lorayne's STOP effect.

They were all in the Hat & Hare room sitting around the table. I was in the back of the room kind of laying down between two chairs... practically in the dark. I had been doing a bunch of impromptu shows and the night was dying down.

So they're passing around a deck and doing stuff to each other. I guess one decides to talk about mentalism with cards.... mentalism with magicians was NOT a popular thing back then. Well, one of the guys who knows me says, "Hey, Greg does mentalism. Can you do something for us?"

From the back, and never getting up, I told them to shuffle their deck. I then went through the STOP idea. The guy started slowly dealing cards off his packet. I suddenly shouted, "STOP!" as he had one card in his hand. I told him to name his card. He did. I told him to turn the card he now had in his hand over. He did. Silence in the room as everyone saw it was that card.

I got up and walked away.

In general, with other people's decks I'll do STOP or OOTW or this really cool one in an Aronson book which I don't remember the name of.

I do have a story about the Aronson one. I was at the Castle again. One of the guys wanted me to do something for him. Now this is a guy that wants to know how everything is done and wants to have every effect in his arsenal. We were kind of waiting for another close up show to start so I was talking to a group and he was off to the side.

I do the effect for him. I make sure he sees I keep talking to my group and barely looking at him. When I find his card he goes ballistic. He keeps yelling, "You didn't even look. How!? How!? DO THAT AGAIN!!" So I did. And I frustrated him more by really looking like I wasn't paying any attention to him until he told me he was done and I went over and picked up the deck. I found his card and he went crazy.

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The best mentalism card effect is probably Deceit Treat by Cameron Francis. It's a "stunning miracle with a BORROWED SHUFFLED deck". The reason why I love this so much is because it is totally self-working, so you can really concentrate on the performance, and is completely impromptu. And there are no forces whatsoever.

This was also discussed here in the forum as well. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=218
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Great stories, Greg.

Based on Annemann's commentary in his books (and especially in the Jinx!), I'd be willing to bet that were he alive today he would most certainly be an Aronson fan - the man's work is simply astounding. My favorite effect of his is "Prior Commitment" from his book "Try the Impossible". It just doesn't get much better than that. In fact, this very effect fooled the pants off of Penn and Teller...

I'm pretty sure I know exactly which Aronson effect you were performing at the Castle too. I'm betting that it was "Self Control" from "The Aronson Approach". Smile
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I'm pretty sure I know exactly which Aronson effect you were performing at the Castle too. I'm betting that it was "Self Control" from "The Aronson Approach". Smile


It could be, but I don't remember the name. This was easily over a decade ago. Aronson has some great stuff in his books.

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Two impromptu routines I'd do are Rosini's Double Reverse and my own Invisible Aces. I love the first routine as there is almost no sleight of hand required and allows me to remain clean through most of the routine. This reinforces the idea that I don't do "card tricks". The other routine doesn't require cards at all and goes great with impromptu.
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