Anybody else watched episode 4 of season 4 of Penn and Teller -Fool us? Seems that they we're fooled by a selfworking trick that can be found in the Card College Light series from Roberto Giobbi...Ain't that grand?

There's nothing bad to be said about self working card tricks. Really, they're not self-working. It's just that the creator put in the hard work of creating it beforehand in the first place. Subtlety over brute force is my motto.

Indeed...I love self-working card tricks where you can focus on presentation.

My version of A shuffling lesson by Chad Long is one of the tricks I do that gets the best reactions.

He was so unorthodox that he absolutely had them off their game. Great effect. I will have to look it up again.

Which book is it in?

Nice presentation by David Parr, but I ain't buying that P&T were truly fooled by this You Do As I Do.

David Parr was not on episode 4. He is referring to Siegfried Tiebers act.

Oops!

The David Par effect is this in a book or his own creation

It is his own creation

My segment is on Episode 5 of Season 4. I don't own a copy Card College Light, so I can't address any similarities to the effect there. I can say that what I did on Fool Us was not self-working. And yes, ejohn, it really did fool them. They conferred for a loooong time and couldn't come up with a theory. Both of them confirmed to me afterward, as we talked in the hallway outside the theater, that they were stumped.

Great presentation. Congrats, David!

Yes.. very nice! I'm fortunate enough to have reversed engineered it.. but I totally understand how they were fooled. A lot of thought went into it, and, with all the moves, it would have taken considerable time to figure it out.. Congrats!

Thanks, RCarruth. Prior to flying out to Vegas to record the segment, I showed the effect to several magicians and then asked "So, do you have a theory about the method?" And they replied with variations on this: "I got so caught up in the back-and-forth game of it, I forgot to look for the method." I think that was one of the factors that worked in my favor.

This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dxaVU-nGxE?
or this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bAqw3jvNU

Second one

That shows one of the basic flaws of the show. The method could had very well been what Penn suggested, but it's not in this case. This is based on Neither Blind nor Stupid by Juan Tamariz with a different setup and different reveal. Great presentation, thanks for sharing!

One word - wow.

I believe Siegfried Tieber's effect is basically just "Some People Think". At least, that's how I would have done it. Perhaps there is a self-working method, but it's trivially done from a stack.