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Eaden Marti
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I curious to learn what the best propless mentalism effects that people perform are?

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I was not much into propless until I bought PROTEUS, this is what I perform every time now. Awesome stuff

Pk touches are another favorite of mine.
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Proteus is the perfect propless routine if you ask me. It's not hard to learn, digest, and perform. And with trial and error, you will be getting close to a 100% hit rate. There is a private Facebook group which has improved upon the original idea ten fold, in my opinion. And it was a Stellar book already.
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What a great promotional thread for a new book/routine. Going for the "best" of anything based on an online thread would be like trying to learn to slam dunk before anything else about basketball. There is a ton of fantastic propless work out there but it would all be worthless to you if you don't know where best to use it or how to use it. Start with Psychological Subtleties by Banachek and go from there. If you need help developing find someone who works that way and get some mentoring in it.
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On Aug 31, 2017, StuartPalm wrote:
What a great promotional thread for a new book/routine. Going for the "best" of anything based on an online thread would be like trying to learn to slam dunk before anything else about basketball. There is a ton of fantastic propless work out there but it would all be worthless to you if you don't know where best to use it or how to use it. Start with Psychological Subtleties by Banachek and go from there. If you need help developing find someone who works that way and get some mentoring in it.


Stuart the guy is asking about the best propless effects. Not about where to start. I do believe as you do that he is a beginner and your advice is making sense but his question is unambiguous.
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On Aug 31, 2017, tomd wrote:
Proteus is the perfect propless routine if you ask me. It's not hard to learn, digest, and perform. And with trial and error, you will be getting close to a 100% hit rate. There is a private Facebook group which has improved upon the original idea ten fold, in my opinion. And it was a Stellar book already.


Thank you tomd and Harrybowman, I'll have to look into and purchase that!
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On Aug 31, 2017, StuartPalm wrote:
What a great promotional thread for a new book/routine. Going for the "best" of anything based on an online thread would be like trying to learn to slam dunk before anything else about basketball. There is a ton of fantastic propless work out there but it would all be worthless to you if you don't know where best to use it or how to use it. Start with Psychological Subtleties by Banachek and go from there. If you need help developing find someone who works that way and get some mentoring in it.


I am fairly new to propless mentalism, although I have spent a lot of time working with progressive and transgressive anagram methods. I have read some of Banachek's books, but I should definitely study them more! I was mainly trying to find new ideas for effects rather than methods, as I often just see people performing the same star sign divinations type effects and such with anagrams.

I want to get more inspiration for different types of routines and thought this might be a good place to see what other people do!

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Not specific effects necessarily, but I really enjoy...

- CMR
- Suggestion
- Mnemonics
- Force deflection

I used to be a fan of PAs, but now I just prefer billet work.
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My first Penguin Live Lecture was devoted to entirely propless effects and may be a good place to look: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5253

Best,

Atlas
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On Sep 1, 2017, Conner wrote:
Not specific effects necessarily, but I really enjoy...

- CMR
- Suggestion
- Mnemonics
- Force deflection

I used to be a fan of PAs, but now I just prefer billet work.


Thank you! I will look into these!
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On Sep 1, 2017, Atlas wrote:
My first Penguin Live Lecture was devoted to entirely propless effects and may be a good place to look: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5253

Best,

Atlas


Hi Atlas, I have a few of your books and I really enjoy them, but I will definitely look into getting your lecture! Thank you!
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The best propless effect is YOU. At least, potentiallly. Better get that straight before moving on to the next part.
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On Sep 1, 2017, Atlas wrote:
My first Penguin Live Lecture was devoted to entirely propless effects and may be a good place to look: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5253

Best,

Atlas


This was an awesome lecture on propless mentalism and importantly how to present it well!!
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Ever Elizalde's MANOEDA.

It's a which hand routine where everything happens in the participant's mind. 100% sure fire. I use it every single day since I bought it.
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My best propless material falls into these categories:

Pk Effects
Anagrams
Logic Based Effects
Hypno Effects
Psychological Manipulation
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CMR and cold reading are as close as you can get to real mind reading. Proteus has a lot of potential but it's not easy. Neither are CMR or cold reading, of course. A beginner would be well advised to stick to simpler methods and avoid "propless" systems.

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My favorite propless effects which I perform regularly:

-tequila hustler by Mark Elsdon
-your intuition, zodiac anagram, cigarette divination and spider force by Peter Turner
-Subtle hustle and train tracking by Atlas Brookings
-Quinta by Phil Smith
-Abyss and various forces from Ecrof by Ross Tyler

And recently triangulation by Matt Mello.

There are also effects which technically use props but still remain totally impromptu like:

-Your intuition, life equation and Isabella's star by Peter Turner

-Colin's version of Patrick Redford prevaricator

And various other effects you can do with coins you carry or with a borrowed phone
Reader discretion is advised.
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The best propless piece of mentalism I've seen is Train Tracking... and that's by a LONG shot.

There are other interesting propless approaches but I often feel they should be peppered into other, more classical routines to create a well rounded hybrid approach.
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On Sep 2, 2017, Looch wrote:
The best propless piece of mentalism I've seen is Train Tracking... and that's by a LONG shot.



Atlas Brookings performing Train Tracking is a prop-less work of art.
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