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How much do you think the tourist industry would suffer if a few tourists died in each storm because someone didn't want to upset the financial apple cart?
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That is a false dichotomy.

Why are the only choices over hype or people die? How ridicules.

Why is everything portrayed in the scariest possible terms in some ridiculous idea that it is how you get people to act?

But congratulations, you fall for it.
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I'm sorry. When people decide to "sit out" a class 5 or class 4 hurricane, it rarely turns out well.
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On Sep 16, 2017, ed rhodes wrote:
I'm sorry. When people decide to "sit out" a class 5 or class 4 hurricane, it rarely turns out well.


And yet my family, in the heart of Florida, decided to gather in what's essentially a large metal kite and "see what happens."

Which turned out to be nothing. Now they're going around saying how smart they were to "trust their instincts."

Sometimes, when I think about my bloodline, I shudder.
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On Sep 16, 2017, ed rhodes wrote:
I'm sorry. When people decide to "sit out" a class 5 or class 4 hurricane, it rarely turns out well.


You have no clue how it turns out because all you do is read about it Ed.

And when did I advocate doing such a thing? You keep making up stuff nobody ever says and acting like it is insightful. I never once said people should not leave. Show me where I said that.
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Then what were you suggesting? You complained that the storm was over hyped and that evacuation is bad for the tourist industry.

So what, in your estimated opinion, should have been done about a class 4or 5 storm barreling down on a heavily populated area? Be aware that you don't have the hindsight to know it's going to swerve and NOT hit those areas with full force,

You're annoyed at the coverage they did give but you're saying you're NOT suggesting staying put. So what ARE you suggesting they do?
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You seem to be the only one who doesn't get my point.

THEY OVER HYPED THE DANGER. What word gives you all the trouble Ed?
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Because I don't believe they did! A category 5 storm looked to be approaching a heavily populated area and it was reported as such. No one could have known the storm would veer or lose power so quickly. They "hyped" the danger of a dangerous storm which then fooled everyone and did something unexpected.
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So economic impact of businesses that have been for decades and now are gone because of hype is fine with you.

Why do you think the only 2 possible solutions are over hype or dead people Ed you still haven't answered that.

Whatever you fell for it, and it doesn't affect you so who cares right? People lose businesses and that is just fine with you.
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It is NOT fine with me, but I still don't believe they over-hyped a class 5 storm that looked to cause great damage.

If they had "under played" the potential damage the storm presented and people had NOT prepared or evacuated, how much worse would we be now?
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By the way. Who's gone specifically from "the hype?"
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On Sep 17, 2017, ed rhodes wrote:
It is NOT fine with me, but I still don't believe they over-hyped a class 5 storm that looked to cause great damage.

If they had "under played" the potential damage the storm presented and people had NOT prepared or evacuated, how much worse would we be now?


So just over hype and consequences be hanged. Gotcha.
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Danny, you're way off base on this one. Whether you intended to or not you are saying economic considerations should drive safety concerns. You cannot tell whether something is overhyped until it is over and done with. You seem to ignore the devastation that did take place because it was less severe than anticipated. Sorry to say, you are the one that doesn't get it.
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I lived through the economic devistation of overvhype. It is very real. I watched dive shops, catamaran tours, fishing guide, bed and breakfasts an on and on go belly up because 4 times they evacuated an area that didn't need to be.

This is not economic considerations alone it is their lives. Bankrupt but that doesn't matter to you does it? No of course not because it is more important to be scared than find better ways. Fear is a better way to communicate.

But ratings are far more important than what happens to others.
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If businesses went belly up after four unnecessary evacuations, there must have been other underlying factors. Their lives and property were safe each time and their loss was restricted to a lack of customer revenue and personal evacuation expenses for a few days, There are ways some of that loss can be made up. Assuming there was only one unnecessary evacuation per year, or at most two, the number of days impacted is rather small considering the number of days in the whole season. One would also expect those businesses to consider severe weather risks as a cost of doing business in those areas.

The National Weather Service doesn't hype a forecast. At any given point in time they know the current strength and direction and a projected strength and direction. Obviously the closer it gets to an area the more accurate it is. Considering what was known about Irma you would have been gambling with your life if you did not acknowledge the forecast and take appropriate action. So it weakened and changed direction. But if it hadn't, it would have been too late to take any precautionary actions if you hadn't already based on the warnings.

You are also confusing being scared with being prudent. A big difference.
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You have no clue the business model of tourist spots do you? Plus it is the loss of revenue for 2 weeks, 4 times. You do the math on how many weeks are in summer and get back to me since you're such an expert.

Most of them operate week to week if they are lucky. So screw them they didn't plan but at least we were prudent but not scared?

Nobody said ignoreanything by the way
Nobody said don't prepare. But don't tell me it isn't over hyped when clearly it is.

Sorry but they scare people and it is stupid.
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Setting up a business where hurricanes, tropical depressions, and tropical storms happen regularly, is a risk one ought to think about before doing it.
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Well, brace yourself because Maria has been designated a Category 5 hurricane and is going to slam in Puerto Rico. Unless it changes course dramatically, the east side of Florida will be next.
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I rather listen to someone who knows way more than me when it comes to weather disasters. Better safe than sorry.

Houston residents are angry they were not warned about Hurricane Harvey sooner.

Danny, would you rather be over hyped or under hyped when it comes to a hurricane headed for your area? Just curious.
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On Sep 18, 2017, Dannydoyle wrote:

Sorry but they scare people and it is stupid.


https://goo.gl/images/134Krd

So that is just a scare? I am sorry too, Danny. But my sorry goes to those who were part of the disaster. That is why I send donations.
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