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Https://www.ellusionist.com/peeled-coin-by-lloyd-barnes.html

Interesting idea.

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Ad copy:

Peeled lets you tear a real coin in HALF. Avail
Ripping the metallic fibres straight through the middle.
Unlike some impossible objects, this is something the spectator CAN EXAMINE.
An actual piece of currency, sliced perfectly in two.
Then, at your fingertips you slowly pinch the edges closed and hand them a perfect coin. Their coin.
- No elastic to break
- No Magnets to find
- Stunningly easy to do
Peeled is an effect where your audience should be encouraged to burn your hands. It's so perfect, you want them to see the illusion of the coin splitting. 
This is the next generation coin bite.
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I don't have this, however...

Wouldn't it look better if when you hand back after you've sealed it back up, that there's a scar/deformation for them to obsess over?
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You could arrange that, I'm sure.

But it is a trade off. More to carry/handle, and it limits the repeatability in a strolling situation.
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I don't think you would want the spectators to burn your hands because they will obviously see something in the one hand if you open it. And this illusion is visually strong and you can bet Spectators are going to want to see that other hand. Now if your very good and quick at Misdirection to be able to ditch and retrieve the other thing then all will be good.

But for me, I'll pass though I now pass on all Ellusionists releases. But I am sure some will enjoy this, the more experienced in misdirection. If I did purchase from Ellusionist a question that would need to be answered before purchasing would be the durability of the gimmick, the opening and closing of the gimmick Time After Time and how long before it loses its realistic look and/or breaks, if at all? Maybe it won't? Who knows.
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I don't think the gimmick can be opened up or closed. It's fixed in that position. It's the handling that creates the illusion, I'm sure. My order is in for the 10p version. Shame it's not available in 50p.

I will not bother with the restoration, just take the coin back in the bent state and put it back in your pocket. Much cleaner imo.
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Y'know, I thought Mr. Barnes left coins behind long ago...Guess not completely, and I'm so happy he didn't. Smile This is a nice idea. I always wondered what would come from the Bent Coin and the Karate Coin, just what would be next?...And so this idea seems to be progressively it. And you know the great, Jay Sankey is somewhere shaking his head saying, "Now why didn't I think of that?" Smile Very clever! Smile

As a decent-at-best coin guy, I clearly see the benefits of this as real thinking and progress as to this magical genre of impossibilia. Simple enough moves make the magic happen in an absolutely impossible way. Believe me, the visual of the coin appearing to be split in two will be shocking to spectators, progressively more so than the popular bending of a coin. This is better, more amazing IMHO. Smile

It's a trick that people will remember you by, done at the right time in a bar or at a fancy party, it will be amazingly remembered. And glad he thought to also do this in American quarters, could half dollars be far behind? Smile I can already see that this will last you a lifetime, easy-to-do brilliant anyway you decide to present it, restore or not. Definitely will pack small and play BIG!

Lloyd continues to let some brilliant things out of his head that weren't quite here before he did it, or did it so much more amazing and better. Peeled Coin is another winner from this young man. What a wonderful impromptu trick to do anyplace, anytime, anywhere you go.
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I'm thinking of taking this to an event I have next month. It'll add some variety to my usual material to play with.

There are no moving parts in the gimmick, by the way.
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On Sep 27, 2017, WitchDocChris wrote:
You could arrange that, I'm sure.

But it is a trade off. More to carry/handle, and it limits the repeatability in a strolling situation.


yeah, I'm sure I could... but its happening again! repeatability and strolling...ha!

just cos we CAN doesn't mean we SHOULD... especially if its being presented as some form of mentalism or bizarre...do something once for someone with a little prestige attached, or for the person who booked you...that's how I always see things - I mean, I don't do strolling, but if I did, I wouldn't be doing weird coin bending or this at every other table... Smile
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I don't normally do strolling any more, either. But I want to expand back into that as I feel the gigs will be more plentiful for me, and I like the idea of having a few little pieces that are only done a time or two throughout the gig.

I wasn't saying you shouldn't do what you mentioned - but it does have to be considered.
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Years ago, I recall seeing a demo video of the always great Paul Richards putting a slight tear in a half dollar. A switch was employed, of course, but it was super clean looking. It felt like the coin never left your eyesight, even if you knew what to look for.

I think this would be neat if the coin didn't hide for so long, or if a more open handling was used.
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In theory this is a strong, cool little effect. In practice it at least appears it’s got the same drawback as everything else in the borrowed-quarter-gaff family these days: Eagle-tailed quarters haven’t been minted in 20 years now, and it’s increasingly likely you’ll hit a group of spectators where nobody has one. So either you’ve got to supply your own at the outset, or handle the peeled coin carefully & skip passing it out for inspection. (It’d probably be safer to have a state-tail on the peeled coin and a matching one to return: most people aren’t going to remember they gave you a Rhode Island when they get a Minnesota back, but the eagle design is strikingly different enough from the states that I’d expect more than a few people to notice they’re getting a now relatively rare “old quarter” back.) And that’s still an OK effect, but the marketing copy here indicates they understand it’s way, way stronger when the coin is borrowed and they actually get to hold the impossibly “peeled” quarter. If in practice you can’t usually do that, it’s probably not quite strong enough to coax $40 from my pocket. Makes me wish there were a Big Magic lobby that could pressure the U.S. Mint to factor this stuff in to their design decisions, but we’re probably outnumbered by the numismatists who want more variety. <Shakes fist: “numismatiiiists!!!”>
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Marion - you're always too humble. You're more than a "decent-at-best coin guy"! But as usual, I agree with you very much - this feels more like the next-generation coin bend (or maybe Garrett Thomas' Profile/Skewer) than a bite, which to me was always about the instant reappearance than the slow melt.

In that light, $40 does seem a bit high - you got Profile *and* Skewer for $40, and most bite coins are significantly cheaper.

I also agree with the concern around state vs eagle quarters; I feel like I'd have a hard time doing this without being sure of what coins I'd get. I know I would also prefer to get one in half dollar, but I also know that a big part of the impact of doing this would be that it's with a borrowed object.

All that said, it's a cool idea - I like the evolution on the thinking here.
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Years ago, I recall seeing a demo video of the always great Paul Richards putting a slight tear in a half dollar. A switch was employed, of course, but it was super clean looking. It felt like the coin never left your eyesight, even if you knew what to look for.

I think this would be neat if the coin didn't hide for so long, or if a more open handling was used.


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This is fun but I don't think it will be perceived as magic. It's a stunt like tearing a phone book in half or knocking the bottom out of a beer bottle.
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Hi spectators, did you know that quarters used to be called two bits. Well in the old days the Spanish Real de a Ocho or the Eight Royals Coin was commonly known as a piece of eight. It was worth 8 reales and was often split into 8 pieces or 8 bits each worth 1 reales to make change. So two bits is a quarter of a piece of eight and that's why we have quarters and why the slang name for them is two bits. Heck even cents are named after Spanish centavos. I was doing some research about the origin of two bits and I discovered that some of those old copper clad quarters, the ones with the eagle on the back, sometimes split in half. That's why the mint switched to the new state quarters. I have been practicing how to split them into two bits but I can only do it with the old style quarters. The new state quarters have a stronger copper nickel clad. Does anyone have one of those old quarters so we can see how well it is made?
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This is fun but I don't think it will be perceived as magic. It's a stunt like tearing a phone book in half or knocking the bottom out of a beer bottle.

Then it's the same as presenting the coin bend as a test of strength. But coin bending can and should be presented as a mental effect. I don't see why it can't be done with this peeled coin.

Also, if someone is worrying about people looking at the other hand, I'm sure their first guess is that the coin is special in some ways, and if they think about the possibility of a switch it's more likely after you hand them the coin. What I would do is to ditch the gimmick while reaching for a lighter, and use it to "restore" the coin back to normal. Of course, as you ditch the gimmick, the normal coin is in display.

By the way I don't see why there is no euro version. Europe is a big market...
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This is fun but I don't think it will be perceived as magic. It's a stunt like tearing a phone book in half or knocking the bottom out of a beer bottle.



Mike, I truly appreciate your opinion here, but have you ever seen Eric Jones do his version of this genre (as to Karate Coin), called "Tai Chi Penetration?"

You should check it out, as to how he takes a "stunt" and makes it a most magical effect and routine. Smile And actually, to my eye, there is no better Karate Coin routine out there than what Eric presented by adding a little further thought to the play of it.
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On Sep 27, 2017, MeetMagicMike wrote:
This is fun but I don't think it will be perceived as magic. It's a stunt like tearing a phone book in half or knocking the bottom out of a beer bottle.



Mike, I truly appreciate your opinion here, but have you ever seen Eric Jones do his version of this genre (as to Karate Coin), called "Tai Chi Penetration?"

You should check it out, as to how he takes a "stunt" and makes it a most magical effect and routine. Smile And actually, to my eye, there is no better Karate Coin routine out there than what Eric presented by adding a little further thought to the play of it.


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It's an interesting idea for sure. But there's going to be a heck of a lot of heat on that switched (palmed) coin because the feat is so incredible. Perhaps the creator offers some additional routining options to end cleaner. Nevertheless, it's great fun to see such advancements in plots as this. I could totally see David Blaine performing this on one of his TV specials.
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