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Christian de Punto Regular user Germany 174 Posts |
In my point of view the dan white routine does not make it better. the second climax is weak even for a layman, because counting from an unshuffled deck is not a real miracle. and the 3rd appearance of the same card from the wallet lets the spectator think, that fore sure the card was forced (what we know is just semi true)...
in my opinion, in this case, the simple direct effect is the best one. @ihop - how many envelopes he might have in the wallet? ;-) and did he even told before it will be an envelope in there...? |
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 679 Posts |
Hey guys. I'm a bit confused...can anyone explain the difference between the 52 to 1 deck, Mastermind deck and the Mind Power deck? They all seem pretty similar and not sure which to get. As a relatively new Café member, not sure whether this question should be a separate topic (but didn't want to get shouted at by the Café poster police). Any insight much appreciated!
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
The mindpower is far better than the 52/1 deck imo as the spread is so much wider . The mastermind deck is a different animal as only f..rc.s one card but nevertheless if I could only buy one it would be the mastermind . Best wishes Gaz 😊
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3052 Posts |
The 52 to 1 deck can be made up with regular cards (multiple decks) and that was actually how I originally purchased and performed it. The gimmick deck was sort of a version 2 although not sold that way. Honestly for laymen I don’t think it adds a lot
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Well that’s a Koran deck in essence then surely ?
Gaz 😊 |
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The great Gumbini Inner circle 3062 Posts |
I am not familiar with the older version of this particular effect however I am very happy with this version of it and it has never failed me and has never failed to get a very decent reaction.
Good magic to all, Eric |
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 679 Posts |
Thanks for the help guys. All the decks sound useful in the right circumstances, but leaning more towards Mastermind. But which would you say is most versatile/can be used in the widest range of possible tricks?
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mitch731 New user 51 Posts |
In terms of results, mastermind is the most limited. 52 to 1 and mindpower given you a larger range of results. As Gaz mentioned above mindpower gives you a wider spread. In terms of ease of use, mastermind is the easiest and most direct.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I agree with Mitch , a couple of the mastermind effects are absolute killer effects though but it’s less versatile . The spread on the Mindpower is great so it’s a close call between the two , I own both so I would only marginally go for the mastermind because of certain killer effects I particularly enjoy with it Gaz 😊
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Feb 20, 2021, Xcath1 wrote: Well, it adds a logical disconnect, so that is quite a lot. |
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3052 Posts |
That’s true. I was just speaking from my experience from having purchased at Blackpool with a regular deck several years before the gaff version came out. I had good luck with it.
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 679 Posts |
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On Feb 21, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote: Cheers Gaz, appreciate your thoughts. Just one other question: is mastermind similar to/the same as Brent Braun's Position Impossible deck? Not sure if Brent's is an evolution but it also looks pretty cool. As a left-hander, not sure if either/both will give me issues (as obviously, I tend to spread right to left). If I had unlimited resources I'd just buy em all as I'm a sucker for a gaff deck...! |
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Timbo399 New user 3 Posts |
I couldn't 100% cut to the card using the bc, so I switched to sc. But lately I have been performing 52 to 1 simply as a mentalism/thought of card routine where I "read" the spectator's mind. As far as the above question regarding Mastermind vs Position Impossible, I think they both are great. The nice thing about PI is you can show the full faces of some cards they did not choose vs Mastermind you cannot do that. But I still love my MasterMind deck and think I can find more ways to use it. I bought a back up of 52 to 1 I like it that much. Cheers.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I think position impossible although I don’t have it must be a mastermind with a Svengali principle built in and you count from either end . That’s my thoughts seeing the demos etc Gaz 😊
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I can’t see it working for a left hander if you spread from right to left . The reason I say that is I am a leftie but spread from left to right so it would work fine for me Gaz 😊
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 679 Posts |
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On Feb 23, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote: Ooh, interesting. How do you spread left to right as a lefties? Or do you use your right hand for that one move? I find it impossibly awkward. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
I am left hand and left foot dominant but when I took up golf as a kid the places where I went only had right handed clubs so almost by accident became pretty strong on both sides . So I write left handed eat my dinner left handed but hold a deck of cards in my left hand in mechanics dealers grip and palm with my right hand etc . Again as my first magician tuition was in this way so I am unorthodoxed in many ways . It does have its challenges though as I overhand shuffle like a leftie so milk the cards off into my right hand .Yeah I’m weird lol but I can’t see how spreading right to left can possibly work with a mix indexed deck unless custom printed for a leftie but hopefully you will find away around it or someone may know of a way . Best wishes Gaz 😊
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dyoung Special user 898 Posts |
Surely it doesn't matter which way you spread. Just turn the deck 180. Or am I being stupid?
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thecromulent Veteran user Brooklyn, NY 388 Posts |
I feel like lefties might have an advantage in close up. Righties tend to spread left-to-right, which means the cards are right-way-up for the performer but upside-down for the spectator. By spreading right-to-left, lefties provide the spectator with a better experience.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
Dan you are not being stupid at all and raise a good valid point . It’s just if you spread say the mastermind in your hands I tend to spread in a slight curve like a fan , well in this instance with the mastermind you would have a blank top corner showing on every card . Of course if spread on a table in a nice dead straight line it as Evan pointed out it would be ok . However as a fairly tight fan is ideally required with the mastermind I would certainly think that may be more problematic for a leftie . So I would say in the hands more of an issue but on the table not so much if you don’t slightly arc spread which I tend to do Gaz 😊 ps you have to grab a deck and try it as it’s one of those things that doesn’t immediately seem prevalent
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