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Dear Fellow magicians,

I'm looking into a memorized deck type. And I know SI Stebbins stack, but can anyone tell me about others systems - pros and cons. For instance do anybody know Osterlinds card system or Gauci's No Mnemonic Memorized card system and which one should be preferred??


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I don't know about the other one you mentioned, but Osterlind BCS is one of the best stacks I have seen, you can leave the deck after the performance, and no one will realize it's a stacked deck.
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Si stebbins and osterlind's are not considered memorized decks. they can be memorized though. Anyway, since this topic probably has 100 threads in this forum use the brand new cool search button
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The best two I've ever seen are Simon Aronson's stack, its tough, and Osterlind's which is relatively easy.
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If there were a printed difference in any deck, riffle deck while looking at back, you will see something change or move.
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The Harding stack is an excellent stack. It requires a quick mathematical calculation to get the location or value of a card. I have memorized parts the stack and usually use the calculations for those parts I can't remember. Unlike the Stebbens stack the Harding stack has no easily identifiable patterns in it.

For me the best feature of the stack is my unpublished procedure that allows me to stack the deck from new deck order in under three minutes.

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HI Vraagaard,

I STRONGLY recommend you do a search for Memorized decks (or stacks), because this sunbject has been discussed a couple of times in depth.

By reading all the posts you will be better equipped to make up your mind on which one is better FOR YOU (as it is a personal choice!).

There are 4 main points to consider when you decide to choose which stack to memorize (listed in no particular order):

-Does it look like a shuffled deck?
-How easy is it to memorize?
-Will it remains in your memory for a long time?
-Are there any built-in tricks? (THAT YOU WILL ACTUALY USE!)

The way you prioritize these questions will lead you to the right stack to memorize.
(ex.: Joyal, Aronson, Tamariz, Rix, Greene, Osterlind, Si Stebbins, Wild, OR your own!, etc...)

This should help.

Ronnie Lemieux
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happiness is the road!
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