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Being an avid chess player, I have a really lovely two-phase Mentalism routine using just 5 chess pieces that I have developed and have had a lot of fun with lately. As a result, I have been trying to find what other chess routines are "out there" and was wondering if any of you might be able to help add to my list. Please note that the classic "Knight's Tour" has NOT been included here because I personally don't care for it and find it rather dull.

Besides my own routine, here's what I have found so far:

"The Grand Master Gambit"- Brian Watson, Syzygy Magazine

"Velvet" - Manos Kartsakis, V

"Chess Match" - Paul Brignall

"New and Improved Chess Gambit" - Devin Knight

Know of any others? Thanks in advance.
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"The Knights Gambit"- Al Mann

Devin re-releases Al's stuff, I have not seen Devin's effect so I can't comment on it's similarity to Al's.
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"The Chess Piece"- Quinta by Phil Smith
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"Chess Player" - Modern Magic, Professor Hoffmann

not a trick but a nice description of an automaton which might provide ideas
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Thanks for the reply!

Devin's routine is just a small modification of Al Mann's routine - but a good one nonetheless. I probably should have mentioned Al's routine as well but figured that mentioning the Knight routine took care of that.

"The Chess Piece" - yes! I have this as well, but I didn't list it as it is more of a "touch" to use with the "Quinta" procedure as opposed to being a routine of it's own.

And the Chess automaton! Yeah - I nearly forgot about that one - but NO WAY will I ever be doing that one!

It doesn't seem that there are very many Chess routines at all - which is strange since Chess naturally lends itself to Mentalism presentations. Thanks again for chiming in. Smile
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"Moving The Knight over all The Squares Alternately" - The Magicians Own Book

Puzzles and Paradoxes

From George Walker in his Treatise on Chess
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"Chess-Player" - Kempelen's

good luck pulling that off
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There is a mention of Chess in the Svenpad ebook, not a chess routine perse

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Thank you. And thanks for your contributions. Hope you and the lady have a wonderful evening!
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Not sure how skilled you may be and if you belong to a chess club but a blindfold and playing 20 games at once could play well
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Smile

Yeah, that's a good old chestnut for sure - and one I had forgotten about. Definitely great for chess clubs too, although I do know that a fair number of chess players are familiar with the method behind it. Oddly enough, when I was a teenager there was a fellow at a mall who was giving this exact demonstration while sitting blindfolded in a large plush chair. It sure had me stumped...until I read Corinda. Smile
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Apparatus: "Le Cavalier vagabond" by Claude Kingsor

A knight and three pawns are placed on a 3x3 board and covered. The magician knows which square the knight rests on.
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Hmmm.

Not heard of this one before, Lin. Sure sounds interesting though. I'll have to see what I can track down on it.

Thanks!
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What is the effect of your chess routine, Sudo? Only if you want to share, of course.
I am very interested, as I play chess too. Smile
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There is a commercial item called Psychic chess 2 by Brian Watson.

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These 2 look interesting.

M-U-M Vol. 63

Abracadabra Vol. 72

from this search https://askalexander.org/search/chess/start/0/sort/rel_desc/

Knights Tour- Fem Fatal Docc Hillford

Thanks for bringing this up Sudo, I was a little surprised at how few routines as well. I will play around today with an idea using a final unfinished chess board as a reading. It's a continuation of an idea from the better place on Optography.
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A couple of ideas without methods, but that any mentalist knows what method to apply Smile

1. You give a board and pieces to someone who knows how to play chess, he is to create a "problem" on the board with a checkmate in 1 move. Before he starts you write a prediction. After he finishes, your prediction shows to be the right solution (Qa7++ for instance)

2. You show a sealed envelope, you invite someone in the audience that knows how to play chess to join you for a quick game (maybe 2 minutes timer on each side), at the end of the game you open the envelope and there is one of those game sheets used in tournaments, the sheet has the exact game that was played), did you predicted the game? did you influence everyone of his moves?

I have not read anything similar, I don't know how would be seen by audience, but I think that for audience that is interested in Chess, they could play well

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Lew Brooks and I put out an updated version of the Knight's Tour a while back that may appeal to those that don't normally like the plot. It's much faster moving with less memory work.
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Lots of great input from everybody here - thanks!

@ Mark Chandaue: Thanks for taking the time to comment. Brian Watson's marketed effect you mentioned (Psychic Chess 2) is actually his "The Grand Master Gambit" which was first published in Syzygy and mentioned in my initial list. The *only* difference between the two is that his original routine used actual Chess pieces, while the "new" version is the exact same routine except that he uses cards with Chess pieces printed on them (instead of actual pieces) so that they can be easily carried around in a wallet. I prefer the original routine because there's just something visually appealing about actual Chess pieces that I really like and using cards with Chess pieces printed on them feels contrived to me. Additionally, the use of actual pieces also makes it much more suitable for a formal show. Of course, that's just my perspective - others may feel differently. Smile

@ RCP: Thanks for your continued contributions to this thread. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the MUM or Abracadabra references you gave - which is a shame because I am eager to explore everything I can find on the subject. As for the routine in Docc's "Fem Fatal" booklet, I *do* have that one and checked it out. I did read this one many many moons ago, but forgot all about it - and now I know why. No offense to Docc (I am a fan of Docc's work overall), but I think it's a bit of a hot mess. I'm not sure whether he included this as an object lesson in creativity or if he actually uses this in performance or not, but it seems (to me) that it muddies up what the focus of the overall effect is supposed to be about while simultaneously making the "Knight's Tour" even longer than it already normally is - in my opinion. While I'm not keen on the introduction of playing cards to the "Knight's Tour", the idea has it's pros and cons. I'm just not convinced that they are an asset in Docc's routine. Still, I am happy that you have listed this here for the sake of completion as I had certainly forgotten this one. Thanks!

@ Steven Keyl: Having just mentioned that there are pros and cons to adding cards to the "Knight's Tour", I'm happy to say that I think your routine is a good example of where this idea is *actually* an asset. Smile

I did check out your link, and while I haven't purchased it, I can easily see the direction and feel in your effect. I think you have very succinctly addressed the main issues with the "Knight's Tour" in your video and I appreciate how you have chosen to tackle the problem (without muddying up the effect) while also reducing the time factor. Great job! I'm sure that those who like this particular effect would benefit from what you have done here. Thanks for chiming in and bringing this to my attention.

@ Marc Carrion: Some nice ideas there. I like both of them, though I suspect that for the first idea you would need to make sure you have a participant who is fairly well-versed in Chess. While many people might likely have a difficult time solving "mate-in-one" puzzles, I suspect that there are probably even less people who could construct one under pressure. Still, the idea is definitely an interesting one that has gotten me thinking a bit. Thank-you.

@ Alexxander: Sure - I will describe my routine (titled "En Passant") in good detail on my next post. Smile

If you gentleman are interested in it afterwards, then perhaps I'll write it up and share it freely with you guys. Quite honestly, it has a very interesting plot direction and combined with the scripting, it makes for an immensely strong performance piece. In my opinion, it perfectly communicates the very reasons for WHY I feel Chess is so perfectly suited for Mentalism.
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That would be great Sudo. None of my postings carry any endorsement from me of the effect or the performer being any good/useful. It was just a search both of my private library and Ask Alexander. I let my subscription go but I will add them to the list of things I want to explore when I re-up.

Continued success,

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