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NYCTwister
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If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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That's not gonna stick.
It's off code for American values and leadership.
That's a discussion of culture values, memetics and branding. From the OP article - These statements in particular:
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...We idolize war and the warfighter, I fear, so that we need not face the world as it is, a world comprised of constraints and obligations demanding something other than brute assertion.

This peculiarly violent fetishism, a security blanket with spikes, comes from a place of collective insecurity and fear, in a time of distinct uncertainty. Veterans are not the only ones dodging grave hazards or committing grave wrongs on the edges of a broken world, but we might have a few urgent things to say about that world if you ask us.

Stop calling us heroes to be revered. Look us in our eyes like anyone else. It is time we talk, grow up and get real.


Engage in open dialogue rather than be told, grow up rather than be eternally young and enthusiastic, and get real rather than create anew according to our ideas ... that's three wishes we might regret making IMHO.

I still recommend exploring the arguments from Peter Watt's book Blindsight about "responsibility", "self" and "duty" before addressing a cultural ethos and its peculiar rough edges. Rorschach to Theseus, tell me more about that tree. Find the text "family tree" in that text to follow up - it's a Chinese room complexity test Smile Stephenson offered similar cautions toward the end of his Diamond Age educational discussion about getting trapped in logic puzzles in castles ruled by rules.
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NYCTwister
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Jonathan, you give me a headache man.
If you need fear to enforce your beliefs, then your beliefs are worthless.
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that's three wishes we might regret making IMHO.


Because...
Jonathan Townsend
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that's three wishes we might regret making IMHO.


Because...


Oh wad some Power the giftee gie us...

Reflective self-perception often comes as an unpleasant awareness.

Folks might start to wonder about differences between words, intentions and actions when we're only looking at outcomes.

Click; cut to the nature channel, program in progress. View of a stream and some large wading creatures. Narrator saying: "...And here we come upon a herd of enthymemes in their media stream."
Will you let those sleeping hypos lie? They are not such sociable critters, are they?

That headache is just cognitive dissonance. Reasoning presented with a disco beat. Yes that was a Pet Shop Boys reference. Looking for common ground. Ping back with what works for you.

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On Nov 11, 2017, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
That's not gonna stick.
It's off code for American values and leadership.
That's a discussion of culture values, memetics and branding. From the OP article - These statements in particular:
Quote:
...We idolize war and the warfighter, I fear, so that we need not face the world as it is, a world comprised of constraints and obligations demanding something other than brute assertion.

This peculiarly violent fetishism, a security blanket with spikes, comes from a place of collective insecurity and fear, in a time of distinct uncertainty. Veterans are not the only ones dodging grave hazards or committing grave wrongs on the edges of a broken world, but we might have a few urgent things to say about that world if you ask us.

Stop calling us heroes to be revered. Look us in our eyes like anyone else. It is time we talk, grow up and get real.


Engage in open dialogue rather than be told, grow up rather than be eternally young and enthusiastic, and get real rather than create anew according to our ideas ... that's three wishes we might regret making IMHO.

I still recommend exploring the arguments from Peter Watt's book Blindsight about "responsibility", "self" and "duty" before addressing a cultural ethos and its peculiar rough edges. Rorschach to Theseus, tell me more about that tree. Find the text "family tree" in that text to follow up - it's a Chinese room complexity test Smile Stephenson offered similar cautions toward the end of his Diamond Age educational discussion about getting trapped in logic puzzles in castles ruled by rules.

Lol. Classic.
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