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kShepher Elite user Washington, DC 470 Posts |
This is just my two cents.
I think this trick should be included in the top ten. I have just performed this twice in two different restaurants and, as Harry would say, jaws dropped. |
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3346 Posts |
Great effect. Card College vol 1
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kShepher Elite user Washington, DC 470 Posts |
The subject should be The Lucky Coin. No be.
Smartphones, and beer. |
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kShepher Elite user Washington, DC 470 Posts |
I really think this trick gets a better reaction than Triumph.
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts |
Has any of you tried Jason Dean's version "Dropsy Diddle"? (that's the original title of the effect BTW)
Basically it's the same effect but instead of finding the "selected" card you name a card for the spectator, and he has to find it.
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Rachmaninov Inner circle 1076 Posts |
There is a lot of great tricks in card college. But because it is seen as a beginner course, nobody uses them. It’s a good thing for me !
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3346 Posts |
Deans effect is coool. At that time it came out, I wasn’t aware of the cool beer caps that had playing card on them. Nice touch. Went to a bar and grabbed a handful and threw the barmaid a few dollars for them!
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mlippo Inner circle Trieste (Italy) 1227 Posts |
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On Nov 25, 2017, Rizzo wrote: To let you know what I think of this trick, I always carry a silver dollar with a miniature 6C stuck to it... Mark |
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3346 Posts |
Mark I have a very light weight ( plastic) jumbo coin and for many years did the exact same thing - with a mini bike card on back of coin.
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
I must have performed a variation of this trick a few hundred times over the past few years - great effect. I know some who will say the timing of the t*p change makes it a fundamentally flawed trick, and yet it does play so well I had to keep it in my repertoire. For those interested, Here's a small bibliography of similar effects I've found:
- Eddie Fields, Dropsy Diddle (Artful Dodges - 1976) [more similar to the Honolulu Shuffle Location, but the coin prop originates here, as best as I can tell). - Sam Schwartz, Working Against Time 1971 (using a timer) - Roberto Giobbi, Lucky Coin (Card College 1 - 1994) [The first time the effect appears in print as we know it, to the best of my knowledge] - Jon Armstrong, Lucky Chip (Card Magic USA by Duffie 2010) [I think this was a step up from Lucky Coin - changes the coin to a poker chip, adds some other interesting elements and the possiblity of a miracle] - Jason Dean, Dropsy Diddle (Penguin, 2014) [basically Lucky Coin but with the bottle cap] - Axel Hecklau, Napkin Rose 2.0 (Penguin Live 2014) [similar to Lucky Coin, but using a napkin rose and a card box] - Helder Guimaraes, Extending the Luck (Veriloquest 2015) [involves a missing corner on a poker chip - almost a kickback-style ending] There are others, such as Jennings' Cut Coin and the effect Cutting Remarks by Weiser, Shore & Ortiz (Kaufman's Card Magic 1979) that involve the prop, but the effect is very different. Overall, I've done this many times and would associate my version as closest to Jon Armstrong's version. However, in certain situations I would find myself wanting to repeat the effect in places where someone might hang around or follow me and the f*rce would prevent me from doing that as I didn't want to introduce multiple coins or chips to my pockets (although that is a plausible way to handle it). I also wanted to fix some issues I have with the original, such as the ending seeming almost anti-climatic, wanting to be able to do it with any named card AFTER the deck has been spread, etc. I eventually did come up with a solution for the prop that allows it to be a named card using either a shuffled deck or a memorized deck, a freely selected card (I have many versions of this), etc. It has been a real staple for me over the years! |
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts |
Nice list!
The J.D. variation, as I said, is different in the sense that it does not involve finding a selected card, but rather, the spectator finds a card that according to you "fits" him or something like that. So it's shorter. Also in his version spectators can shuffle the deck before starting the trick. And also the bottle cap. The Helder version was also printed in Genii, but can't remember what issue number it was.
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1011 Posts |
Here's how I have been handling the Lucky Coin effect: At the point where the lucky coin is laying on their supposed selection I slide the card out from under the coin and show the wrong card. I now do a top change as I gesture towards the coin which I now flip over with their selection. This will get a laugh. I place the switched in selection under the coin. As an afterthought I vanish the coin. I gesture toward the card and sow that it has changed to their card.
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magicfish Inner circle 7006 Posts |
Thanks for sharing that, Ed, great idea.
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kShepher Elite user Washington, DC 470 Posts |
Interesting. I think the top change is completely covered as they stare at the coin. I think it is almost elegant handling. I've never been caught....that means my bad day is coming
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kShepher Elite user Washington, DC 470 Posts |
I do my top change exactly as Giobbi says. I immediately, after I flip the coin, move my right hand back, make the change, leave my right hand stationary, and move my left hand up to adjust my glasses.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Love this sort of effect, one of those little gems that's always so nice to come across now & again...Do it well, and it's all you ever need to completely engage and amaze.
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
Max - I wish you could find the reference to Helder's in Genii. I have it listed in my notes thanks to Denis Behr's archive, but it the only one on that list I've not read myself, although from Denis' description I have an idea of how the handling could be done. Perhaps I'll have to go scour the recent issues.
I'm finding it interesting to hear how people have handled the move at the end. I've always done it as I flip the chip/coin over and then I reach over with the left hand to grab the chip and place it back on the card. Then I back far, far away and have them slide the card out from under the chip and turn it over. I've found that many people (esp. those walking up at the last moment) remember this picture of me far away and the spectator turning over the card pinned under the chip. I also recommend if you can to have a way to know where the card is so you could leave it in the center of the spread during the first dropping of the coin. There's a greater than 1/52 chance of them more or less giving you a direct hit if you have it somewhere in the middle of a tight spread. Jon Armstrong talks about this advantage at length in his Penguin lecture, and it's been surprising to me how often it happens. The custom-printed chip I've started using has a 52-1 card on the back instead of a f*rce card. This makes the moment more of a silly gag after all the build-up, before the final revelation. An advantage to this is now the card can be freely named or selected, which I've handled in many ways. My favorite is a memorized marked deck, so I can spread it out on the table first, bring out the coin, have them name any card, and go through the procedure to find it themselves. The downside of course is you loose the revelation of "how did he know that'd be my card?" But one of my problems with the original effect was people were finding the ending anti-climatic. I also forgot to mention in my list above that there are some other fantastic tricks I've also used that have a similar "effect" or feel to them. Two of my current favorites are the main ToiBox routine, and Michael Close's The Frog Prince. |
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1011 Posts |
The construction as it is described in Card College 1 is very solid in terms of methodology. Perhaps perfect. My choices are simply ones that reflect my personality. With the original version, you are claiming an impossible effect, and it happens! I personally enjoy an element of surprise. I love being able to say "would you be impressed if your card is under this coin?" I follow that up by turning over the wrong card and say "yeah, me too. ". This gets a great laugh, which also affords me the time to do a top change as I gesture towards the coin with my extended left finger still holding the deck. I now flip over the coin, which is the first effect. It also provides another laugh, which is important to me. Vanishing the coin is the next effect and finally ending with the change of the card. So yes, this most definitely alters the plot, But more importantly, for me, provides the type of entertainment structure that I am fond of.
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts |
Dear Ed:
I like your version although it is important for me to say that because of that small change you do in the effect, it becomes a different "plot" altogether! In the original version(s) the effect is that the spectator, through his own intuition or whatever, manages to find his own card - a powerful effect. The effect is accompanied by a moment of laugh and relaxation. This is also the concept of "Lowering the Standards" that A. Wind mentions. However in your version that particular effect is lost. The spectator doesn't do the magic. It's a type of "a trick goes wrong and the magician fixes it". Now I'm not saying is less good; I only want to point out that by that change you are also changing the plot and therefore the feelings associated with it.
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts |
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On Nov 28, 2017, sgtgrey wrote: It's in the August 2017 Issue, in the "Invisible Strings" column. It's very good.
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