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ChristopherM Special user UK 844 Posts	Posted: Jun 29, 2007 03:40 pm 0 Pure Effect seems by far the more popular book; I guess one should make of that what one will, and leave it at that.
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24265 Posts	Posted: Jun 29, 2007 07:03 pm 0 Quote: On 2006-12-23 09:24, Bedford wrote: For the basics, Practical Mental Magic by Annemann is good, along the lines of 13 Steps. You can find it in paperback, if you check your local shop or look online. Also, don't forget that there is a lot of good basic mentalism in Tarbell, which is often overlooked these days. Pure Effect is very good, but I agree that it is for those with a little more experience. Once you get the basics under your belt I would go there; also The Artful Mentalism of Bob Cassidy, Paramiracles by Ted Lesley, and the above-mentioned Mind, Myth and Magic by T.A. Waters. Just for the record, Practical Mental Magic or its original version Practical Mental Effects is not by Annemann. It's by John J. Crimmins. Crimmins compiled the book from writing that Annemann did in several of his publications, such as the Jinx. This guy is not ready for Paramiracles. If he can't handle the simple constructions that are called for in Corinda, then the Lesley material will be too advanced for him. My own advice would be this. Reread Corinda. Learn one routine from it. Then learn another. Do this until you have seven routines. You will have plenty of material then. Learn how to do a Billet S----- and a center tear. "The Swatter" Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
camamos New user 1 Post	Posted: Apr 9, 2008 01:21 pm 0 I am a beginner and so it is possible that my question could appears ingenuous to the expert performers. I bought Ben Rayot's "Dead mentalism". I think it's an expensive but good booklet, but I couldn't understant a specific point: to realize the first effect "ESPecially for you" the author writes that is necessary to draw some symbols on a card with a "white candle" and that during the conclusive final of the effect, "the white wax" of the candle remain invisible until the card catches the light. At last, the spectator will literally see the image appear on the card. Now, I have never seen a design made by a candle white wax appear on a card on account of the light. I am not able to perform it. Maybe Ben Rayot refers to a special wax light-sensible? And where can I found it? Is there anyone able to help me about this detail?
beds Regular user isle of wight uk 192 Posts	Posted: Apr 9, 2008 02:15 pm 0 Wish I could find pure effect for £35!!!
tmoca Inner circle 1114 Posts	Posted: Apr 9, 2008 03:10 pm 0 Quote: On 2008-04-09 15:15, beds wrote: Wish I could find pure effect for £35!!! You could in 2004!!!
beds Regular user isle of wight uk 192 Posts	Posted: Apr 9, 2008 03:15 pm 0 I'm still searching every 100 year old bookshop in hope of a 1st edition for £5 from a dealer with no clue, but doubt I'll find it!
close_up_act Special user Idaho Falls 773 Posts	Posted: Apr 14, 2008 06:55 pm 0 Kinda funny huh? I don't wanna flop $35 or whatever for it and a few years later the book is worth $100's... J Rodriguez
beds Regular user isle of wight uk 192 Posts	Posted: Apr 15, 2008 12:30 am 0 Don't think anyone realised how big he would get.
RickDangerous Special user I can't believe I made 966 Posts	Posted: Apr 15, 2008 05:42 am 0 Btw... have you seen this?: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Derren-Brown-Absol......26812197 "Reality is what you can get away with." Robert A. Wilson "Think for yourself and question authority." Timothy Leary
beds Regular user isle of wight uk 192 Posts	Posted: Apr 15, 2008 03:15 pm 0 Yea I'm watching it lol not gonna buy it as not got enough cash but curious to see what it goes for
close_up_act Special user Idaho Falls 773 Posts	Posted: Apr 17, 2008 12:06 am 0 Wow, I feel really bad though, I ended up buying this as a pdf file when it came out...i shoulda just bought the book when it was $50... J Rodriguez
markthorold Inner circle Shrunken heads atop 1943 Posts	Posted: Apr 17, 2008 01:22 am 0 As far as I recall it was never put out as a PDF file. E.O.I
RickDangerous Special user I can't believe I made 966 Posts	Posted: Apr 17, 2008 07:17 am 0 Quote: On 2008-04-17 01:06, close_up_act wrote: Wow, I feel really bad though, I ended up buying this as a pdf file when it came out...i shoulda just bought the book when it was $50... You've been ripped off! "Reality is what you can get away with." Robert A. Wilson "Think for yourself and question authority." Timothy Leary
birdie New user 4 Posts	Posted: Apr 18, 2008 08:16 am 0 Is there a pdf file available? If so were can I get it?
close_up_act Special user Idaho Falls 773 Posts	Posted: Apr 22, 2008 01:09 am 0 Wow...i know I got it.....a buddy of mine has the book and we compared it page for page...took a while to print out too. J Rodriguez
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