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On May 21, 2021, geggy wrote:
Late to this one.
Does anyone feel that asking for the number before you open the list is the weak part of this.
Bit on the fence on this.


I felt the same way, but don't worry about it anymore.
I use DFB as a 3 part prediction in my wallet. Most of the time I do this with 3 spectators.

Force #1: Use DFB to force a celeb on spectator number 1
Force #2: Play "Rock Paper Scissors" with spectator number 2. (Rule: There must be a winner.)
Force #3: Force HEADS of a spinning coin on spectator 3.

In my wallet I have a 2 way out envelope. (this has to do with Force #2)
You show the written prediction of force 2 and 3 and on the other side of the prediction is a picture of the celeb.

Force 2 is explained in the Gary Jones Penguin Lecture.
Force 3 is explained in a Looch Penguin Lecture.
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Force 3 is great but probably the first non card force I learned 35 years ago Gaz 😊
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On May 21, 2021, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
Gerry, the Realist app does so much more if you have any concerns Gaz 😊


Yeah was thinking how this compares to realist.
I guess its magician thinking and as they say 'will fly'
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Spinning coin force is sooo simple but very clever.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
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On May 21, 2021, geggy wrote:
Late to this one.
Does anyone feel that asking for the number before you open the list is the weak part of this.
Bit on the fence on this.


You can do so many things with it, as one said, you can use a peek wallet. What can also be fun is to use it as the finisher of a one ahead mentalism routine etc etc. I performed it as is, and it just seems to fly right by people however, I'm not sure. Maybe it's strong enough on its own merit? Smile
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Here's a way where it doesn't seem to matter whether or not you know they number ahead of time - it's my favorite use of DFB, in combination with Mental Epic...

In a close-up situation like this, I love using Banachek's Business Card Epic - it's so simple and direct, and perfect in conjunction with DFB.

I frame the effect by talking about how when people think of something impossible, it's common to say that it's a 1 in a million odds.

The great thing is - if you use three lists of 100 objects - 100x100x100 = 1,000,000! So that's a nice justification for using a collection of 100 object lists I have on my phone.

Key thing is, I only use one of the lists to force an object and get one-ahead. The other two times, I'm using the lists legitimately.

(NOTE: I'm not going to go in to all of handling and procedure for mental epic, and also any mental epic routine can be utilized, but like I said, Banachek's Business Card Epic is fantastic for this, only three cards and a pen...and of course, your phone)

I have the spectator open the list "100 Top Travel Destinations". They look over the list, mentally select one, I write down my prediction.

I have them open a second list "100 Top Bands", they mentally select one, I write down the prediction.

When it comes to the third list, I take back the phone for a moment and close the Notes app. I explain that people might think that certain choices are the obvious ones that everybody selects - for example, for Travel Destinations, a lot of people probably select Paris. So to eliminate that possibility, the last selection they'll make won't be by looking over the list, instead, they'll call out a random number. But before they select a number, I write down the last prediction.

Finally, they call out a number between 1 and 100. We open the Notes app, they go to "100 Top TV Shows" and they find the show that corresponds to that number.

To end, you reveal the first prediction is correct - a 1 in 100 chance. The next prediction is correct, a 1 in 10,000 chance, and finally the third prediction, it's correct - a one in a million chance!

I like this because using three lists with 100 items on each is totally motivated by the 1 in a million presentation. For the third selection, the use of a number instead of picking an item from the list is motivated by the fact that you want the selection to void of any influence, and since the prediction is written before the number reveal, it takes the heat off of the need to know the number.

Hope that makes sense.
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Smile Very nice thinking!! Thank You!! Jan
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Glad you like it Jan!
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On Aug 15, 2021, Mr. Mindbender wrote:
Here's a way where it doesn't seem to matter whether or not you know they number ahead of time - it's my favorite use of DFB, in combination with Mental Epic...

In a close-up situation like this, I love using Banachek's Business Card Epic - it's so simple and direct, and perfect in conjunction with DFB.

I frame the effect by talking about how when people think of something impossible, it's common to say that it's a 1 in a million odds.

The great thing is - if you use three lists of 100 objects - 100x100x100 = 1,000,000! So that's a nice justification for using a collection of 100 object lists I have on my phone.

Key thing is, I only use one of the lists to force an object and get one-ahead. The other two times, I'm using the lists legitimately.

(NOTE: I'm not going to go in to all of handling and procedure for mental epic, and also any mental epic routine can be utilized, but like I said, Banachek's Business Card Epic is fantastic for this, only three cards and a pen...and of course, your phone)

I have the spectator open the list "100 Top Travel Destinations". They look over the list, mentally select one, I write down my prediction.

I have them open a second list "100 Top Bands", they mentally select one, I write down the prediction.

When it comes to the third list, I take back the phone for a moment and close the Notes app. I explain that people might think that certain choices are the obvious ones that everybody selects - for example, for Travel Destinations, a lot of people probably select Paris. So to eliminate that possibility, the last selection they'll make won't be by looking over the list, instead, they'll call out a random number. But before they select a number, I write down the last prediction.

Finally, they call out a number between 1 and 100. We open the Notes app, they go to "100 Top TV Shows" and they find the show that corresponds to that number.

To end, you reveal the first prediction is correct - a 1 in 100 chance. The next prediction is correct, a 1 in 10,000 chance, and finally the third prediction, it's correct - a one in a million chance!

I like this because using three lists with 100 items on each is totally motivated by the 1 in a million presentation. For the third selection, the use of a number instead of picking an item from the list is motivated by the fact that you want the selection to void of any influence, and since the prediction is written before the number reveal, it takes the heat off of the need to know the number.

Hope that makes sense.


That is a brilliant idea. Thanks for sharing
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My pleasure!
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That’s great thinking Mindbender!
I appreciate you sharing your creativity with us.
Thank you!
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Happy to share, I learn a lot from everyone else!
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Hello,
Just to know where we can find the description of the mental epic routine of Banacheck?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi jgeerts,

It might be taught in multiple places, but I came across it in a book (or you can get it as a pdf at Lybrary.com) by Paul Romhany called Mental Epic Compendium.
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Thanks Mr Mindbender
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That’s a great sequence Mindbender; thank you for sharing!

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Yes great idea Mr Mindbender and thank you for sharing
Gaz 😊
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Is it still running well on IOS 15? Thank you
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Wonder if you can can help. I have DFB on my phone and have not used it for a while. The app opens in he performance screen and I need to get back to the setup screen - can anyone remind me how to do this please.
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On Jan 18, 2022, Dave W UK wrote:
Wonder if you can can help. I have DFB on my phone and have not used it for a while. The app opens in he performance screen and I need to get back to the setup screen - can anyone remind me how to do this please.


2 finger swipe down on performance screen will take you back into settings
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