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On Feb 28, 2018, Nikita wrote:
"As your $20 falls from your hand IT CHANGES IN MID-AIR to the $5" what? You just flip the bill on other side. Any spectator will understand this and will take the note to look on that previous side))) What a terrible move.


I have been performing Noblezada'a 2 Dollar Window trick for a long time. IMO, can be included in the top bill transformation effects on the market. Get's way over the top reactions. That being said, do you need to manage your audience, absolutely. Does it take away from the effect when you have to manage your audience, absolutely not. People LOVE the effect and rave about it. Transfer, IMO, is the same. If you can manage your audience, this will work and get great reactions.

Apparently Transfer has been a staple in Zach's bar act for sometime. IMO, bar patrons are sometimes the toughest to perform for especially after having a couple drinks resulting in wanting to grab at everything. Not sure how Zach can be successfully performing this and continue to make a living if it's so bad. I think some are just better at managing their audience and those that are will be successful with this.

Again, all my opinion.

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It's not about audience management at all. Audience management usually is about working with hot spots - like when pаlming, loading or switching (to hide the moves). Almost any situation which you need audience management will fall into these three categories.
But when you do beautiful visual moment - the last thing you want is to distract or misdirect your spectator. On the opposite - you want him to increase all his attention and senses (like when you reveal smthn with frixion pen).
So..
When I saw the trailer - my first impression was WTF, this guy just makes bucks from old good trick. But after your post I messaged trailer to 3 of my friends (not magicians). And they all didn't get this at all. Asking "where the magic was, cause 1 dollar corner obviously was on the bottom when this guy flipped it".
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RNK and Jared : just in case you didn't guess, I always show the coin before I put it their hand or bend it visually at my fingertips (I prefer the latter). Yet despite that, some guys (rarely though) happened to understand what happened. Like I said, it's not so much about presentation, it's more about gauging spectator's intelligence. You cannot fool everyone, sometimes they are way more astute than what you may believe. They know how to apply logic : nothing happened or changed in their hand so whatever happened to the coin has been done before he got it in his hand. If you bend it in your own hands, and visually, at least, they shouldn't suspect the coin was already bent before the visual "moment". If I feel the spectator can fall for it, I will try the effect in his hand. Otherwise, I will do the optical bend. This is by far the safest method of all : it's surefire.
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Interesting, I do the bend and then show the coin to The Spectator before I place in his hand and I have never been busted. But hey you always got to do what you are comfortable with.
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It's not about audience management at all. Audience management usually is about working with hot spots - like when pаlming, loading or switching (to hide the moves). Almost any situation which you need audience management will fall into these three categories.


I disagree. Sure, those are part of it, but not all. Audience management is also about understanding your audience, setting expectations (is grabbing OK?) - typically nonverbally - and handling anyone who doesn't want to play nice - attention seekers, challengers, grabbers, etc. In other words making sure the audience behaves the way you want them to.

I also think that's harder at a bar - drunk people are more likely to not pay attention, or be grabby, because their inhibitions are lower.
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Interesting, I do the bend and then show the coin to The Spectator before I place in his hand and I have never been busted. But hey you always got to do what you are comfortable with.

I have also never read anyone here or elsewhere saying that he got busted when performign Out of this World, yet recently, on FB, I've found someone said something like that. Though he allowed people to shuffle several times, someone kind of guessed that the only way he could achieve that perfect outcome is that he has given one pile consisting entirely of red cards and the other pile of black cards. Like I said, sometimes people are quite astute.
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I also think that's harder at a bar - drunk people are more likely to not pay attention, or be grabby, because their inhibitions are lower.


I find this the case sometimes but I also find the other side is the case a lot of times. I was doing a Corporate strolling gig for 950 executives for Heinz company and many were drinking a good bit. I can't count how many times they were jumping at me and trying to grab everything! It was crazy! The security guard had to shadow me as it got that bad. I just try to not perform for the inebriated at all costs. Maybe is goes with your analogy of "astute" spectators. Maybe it's just the inebriated astute spectators that are grabby, who knows.....

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I also think that's harder at a bar - drunk people are more likely to not pay attention, or be grabby, because their inhibitions are lower.


I find this the case sometimes but I also find the other side is the case a lot of times. I was doing a Corporate strolling gig for 950 executives for Heinz company and many were drinking a good bit. I can't count how many times they were jumping at me and trying to grab everything! It was crazy! The security guard had to shadow me as it got that bad. I just try to not perform for the inebriated at all costs. Maybe is goes with your analogy of "astute" spectators. Maybe it's just the inebriated astute spectators that are grabby, who knows.....

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Too bad you could not do a vanishing Neilson ketchup bottle.
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LOL!!!!! That would have been great Michael!
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I find this the case sometimes but I also find the other side is the case a lot of times. I was doing a Corporate strolling gig for 950 executives for Heinz company and many were drinking a good bit. I can't count how many times they were jumping at me and trying to grab everything! It was crazy! The security guard had to shadow me as it got that bad. I just try to not perform for the inebriated at all costs. Maybe is goes with your analogy of "astute" spectators. Maybe it's just the inebriated astute spectators that are grabby, who knows.....

RNK


Oh, ha. You thought I meant "not pay attention to the magic". Sometimes, but I'd actually meant "not pay attention to the social signals about not lunging in to grab everything.". So we're on the same page. Smile
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The security guard had to shadow me as it got that bad.

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Wait, hold on a sec, a security guard was actually asked to follow you around to keep people from grabbing things out of your hands?
I’m just surprised because typically if a large group is that inebriated, security is usually too busy handling other issues than making sure the magician can finish his card tricks.
But nice to know the company/event planner was looking out for you. Or maybe the guard just really liked your magic.
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