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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
J Warrens
Yes I did visit and did win:::) Sent you a PM SA This is what Pitt Boss wrote on other thread: Quote:
I like this very much. I will say that I sanded off the design on the back and stained the discs a darker color, this allows the natural grain to look much better........ Hoodrat, you wrote: Quote:
Perhaps to get around this, the performer could use a Piatt Envelope to cover the multiple outs. Click here to see the Magic Warehouse's description of the Piatt Envelope (which I don't have, by the way): http://themagicwarehouse.com/mental3.html#lp1631 I sent you a PM
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mindgames Veteran user 389 Posts |
The idea was not.. using a multiple out and switch. by using other props is destroying the idea it self.
about the wooden discs, you don't even need them right? change it at your will.
I READ MINDS.... YOURS TOO.
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SandyWeber Regular user 121 Posts |
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On 2004-04-27 12:52, hoodrat wrote: I think one of the disarming things about the effect is the fact that you and the participant can freely exchange objects at his/her discression (free will). In my experience, this negates any feeling of procedure. Best, Sandy |
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mesmer Inner circle 1186 Posts |
I don't use the disk and the bag that come with the effect, but the props will be a great addition in the shelf along with other props! nyah...nyah...nyah...
for all of you who had the audience that can see trough the method, then its your fault, it got something to do with your character and presentation of the effect the way I do it is as an influence, it only 3 object anyway, it is not strong enough asw a prediction, again it's only 3 object, and in my presentation I show the audience that YES it is marked, "..but I know which one is wich, you don't,so my job is to influence you to..." if despite my charming face and character they still see the method, the I just reply "..aaahhh so you are very smart, I've told you before that i'am going to influence you, only inteligent and sensitive people can sense the I influence others...." (meaning:I give them and most importantly my self a credits, and I take the smart aleck in my side,rather than working againts them) overall, it's a grand small effect..for the right performer! |
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
My disks are also a bit noticeable on the backs.
And to add to that, my 8 yr old noticed the discoloration after the effect. I just told her she could have picked any of the disks....thats just how they are made. Can't imagine a comeback to this.
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
Hello,
Recieved Free Will a couple days ago.Everyone is talking about the disks!This color that color? Who cares about the disks.Don't use them. I don'nt use any props.For those who have this you will understand my application. A pencil and small blank pad of paper only. Are we not men-talists? I talk about how free choice and memories are closely linked.You go to an ice cream shop that has 31 flavors 31 choices but your memories tell you that you like chocolate which you buy.Your free choice was already predetermined. I ask the spec to freely name any three cards from a deck,off the top of their head. I pick up the pad and write the three cards down as they freely think of them.Tear off the page fold it. I tell them each card represents a memory of theirs.I then "cold read" a memory tied to each card they select telling them ahead of time that all I ask is they give me one of their cards/memories free choice.When I finish the precentation the kicker is of cource my un-touched list of their cards is actually a perfect prediction of what just happened. P.S.the cold readings are of good memories and bad memories.Try it! |
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
Sent you a PM Myster......good concept...
The problem I have with the quarters is I can't see the dates from a far....any other ideas gang?
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
Just wanted to clarify that as part of the cold readings of their thought of cards,one of the cards will get a "bad" reading and the suggestion that they may want to "lose or forget that memory"is given.
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Many times children will see right through magic or mentalism effects.
I believe it is because they lack the cluttered life experience we as adults possess. I mean do you think children really experience free will? Somebody is always telling them what to pick or do. Come to think of it, does anybody ever experience free will? Cheers, James Quote: On 2004-05-07 18:52, sapolice wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
James, good point...Im a Calvinist so I believe man's free will is bonded (Martin Luther).
Anyways, ran into a more adult problem this morning. Free Will has been working fine BTW. What do we do when the spec asks to switch their disk with the one in the bag instead of the one the Magi holds????? The woman said twice, "I want to switch mine with the one in the bag." First time it happened to me today. I stuttered and stampered through it but it definitely lessened the effect. Feel free to PM me if one believes they are exposing. Thanks Wayne
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gibby357 Veteran user The Woodlands, TX 344 Posts |
My mouth is wide open, jaw on the floor. The original question that started this thread by Hoodrat, it happended to me and it is really wild hearing about it in a thread. I performed this effect for two friends and when I was finish, the person who made all the choices mentioned that the backs of the disc were different. Before I could say anything, the other person said, "Okay, he knew what was what but you made all the choices. He let you choose what went where, how did he know that". She Shook her head and said "I don't know". Enuff Said.
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
That's great Gibby, thanks for sharing...I tell them at the beginning the disks are a bit defective...so far, only my daughter has remarked about them (8 yrs old).
The switch for the one in the bag was just the recent "question." I haven't had the time to alter it yet but love all the suggestions....
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neomaster New user 42 Posts |
I have free will,
like Rick, I don't use the disk. but I use it more like impromptu magic. just bring business card and a pen. I use the object with wallet, key or anything. |
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kevin carmean Regular user 159 Posts |
As soon as I got this I ditched the wood disks and converted it to 3-business cards and 1-envelope.
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westo Special user 585 Posts |
I also converted this to three cards and a written prediction purely to put it in my wallet! I changed the wording slightly to suit what I wanted, after the prediction was questioned a couple of times by the more astute spectators!!!
Creator of 'The Famous Westo Peek'..'The Westo Dump' and the 'Westolope'
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