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ed wood
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Imagine a world in which people spent as much time practicing and performing magic as they ďo whining about cr@p on the internet. What a magical world that would be.
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I think that Mark makes good points here (and in his other posts).

It doesn't sound to me like the intention was to suggest exclusivity. Not sure why it's so contentious, honestly.


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On Apr 16, 2018, Mark_Chandaue wrote:
...the limited availability was not a feature, nor was it sold at a premium price due to limited availability. The window of availability was exactly that a limitation. Derren was only going to be available in my local area for 7 days. Due to demand that run was extended to 14 days. I didn’t see anyone that went during the original dates up in arms or complaining that the availability was extended even though they had to pay again if they wanted to see it again the second week. While we are at it wasn’t the DFS sale supposed to be over ages ago?

Also the ad said that each session would be 3-4 hours but the first session went over 5 hours, those bastages made Marc available for an extra hour, I bought it on the basis that session would be no more than 4 hours, giving me the extra hour was a nasty devious tricksy thing to do, dang those alakazam guys and their amazing content at reasonable prices I am going to write to my MP forthwith!!!

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On Apr 28, 2018, IAIN wrote:
All academy lectures are available for a set amount of time and two different prices. I forgot about the Spelmann one, I'd have liked to have seen it but can't.

I'll get over it though.


You can mate. It's available to buy on Alakazam again. While everone is debating Marc Paul, Spelmann is being slid under the back door haha!

I also missed Marc Paul and would have liked to have seen it, but I personally don't think it should be released again just because of the conditions of how it was sold. It's just a matter of principle. If they want to change the model fine, start again but don't start massaging the initial conditions (ie. Only the live element was limited) after the fact to suit yourself.

I saw a vlog in which Peter and Dave were so keen to put across that these were so different from anything else out there (read Penguin ahem.) And I think Dave even said they had created this new model. When Penguin started their 'LIVE' lectures the reason for the name was that they were live and people could write questions in real time. So I don't know where they are getting that from. Penguin have aso shown things on multiple camera angles etc.to be fair. Other than the length I don't see much difference. No big deal, you've seen how successful something is and want to have a crack that's fine but let's call a duck a duck eh? By their own admission recently, they are just making it up as they go along. Their original idea of a six week live course which was somewhat unique didn't work out so they are changing it into something else. It is what it is.

Their reason for releasing them again is that they have had loads of requests and people might not have seen it advertised in time or had enough money? Ok so if that happens with any other 'limited' release is that ok? If Atlas came out and said 'right some geezer has asked about traintracking and he was skint at the time, poor fella. So Im going to whack a load more out there' would everyone say ok , no big deal, let him make more money off it stop whinging. I don't think so.
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We'll, if alakazam's didn't want to suggest that it is available for a certain period of time, then why aren't the lectures available to buy no matter the timescales?

That was a conscious choice by them, right?

All this debating when the facts are already out there! Sometimes life is tough...
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It definitely was sold with a 'limited availability' element to it.
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Ah I posted t the same time as gingerwizard...
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On Apr 28, 2018, JamieD wrote:
Actually, Alakazam never said they wouldn't be resold.


https://youtu.be/0MdzolBIZZ8

Forward to 3.17 Dave says "However, you cannot buy it after the event."

This is how the academy events were first sold. There is a definite difference between running/filming a live event again a second time and selling something that already exists no matter how much you twist it.

It's this difference I think people are taking issue with.

You can see from the above link that the courses were sold with an element of 'buy it now or miss out' To then find out they are gonng to be freely available may make people feel a little duped.

I get that.
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Maybe they can just say it was dual reality and everything will be ok Smile? lol - I'm sorry I couldn't help myself.
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I love Marc Paul's work. I own MUCH more mentalism material than I could ever use in several lifetimes so I am very reluctant to add any more books/videos to my collection. This is one I will DEFINITELY buy. I sent emails to Alakazam and Marc personally and they both confirmed that this lecture WILL be available to purchase as a download in "3-4 weeks." So keep a close eye on the Alakazam website and get on their email list. I am very sorry I missed the original notice of this lecture and I will NOT miss it the second time around. I have no idea if this will be another "limited time offer" or will be for sale indefinitely like a Penguin lecture.
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Let me use my predictive powers for real (only this time though)

April 2018:
-North Korea signs peace treaty with South Korea
-Mentalists are moaning on the internet about exclusivity for 9 hours of excellent magic for 40 ucks.

April 3418:
-Total world peace is reached...only one small part of the internet (an ancient tool used back then to share information) is opposed. It comes from a place called the magiccafe, where a bunch of mentalists who are all alive since the "infinity programme" from 2022, moan about a british shop called alakazam, and say that they will never agree to world peace because the marc paul lecture should have been exclusive. It is assumed that they are crying alone in the basement right now. And now let's get back to the world peace festivities.
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I'm only responding in case you thought what you wrote was funny

It's not a big deal, it doesn't keep me up at night. It's just good to be clear on expectations. People are only jumping on this one because of how good the reviews have been. From my perspective it has seemed as though it was sold under the idea that after a brief window post live event, then it wouldn't be made available again. That's all. It's nice to have clarity.

All we have are our words and actions.
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Anyway back on topic, I love the simple card trick near the beginning, perhaps not as great if it wasn't a picture card, but with a bit of thought it is easy to get around. Thanks for a great lecture Marc.
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Yup, a fantastic lecture...I wish they got rid of the busy logo on the mat though, it can sometimes obscure what's going on...
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Still don't see this as available (again) yet.
I lost track of where the whole topic rested.
I would still love to catch this.


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Yes - it would be great to be able buy this! Fingers crossed it’s eventually possible.
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Marc Paul will give a Penguin Lecture in October.
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This was a great lecture. Marc Paul presents real workers in a totally non pretentious way. There’s really great handlings on billets and lots of classic mentalism principles made current.
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Does anyone know of other similar material to Marc Paul's themed effects where you can create custom corporate presentations?
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On Oct 26, 2018, wchoo002 wrote:
Does anyone know of other similar material to Marc Paul's themed effects where you can create custom corporate presentations?


Are you familiar with Mentalism Incorporated?
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Did this ever go up for sale post lecture?
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