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@Jay Jennings: A time table is in the facebook group. Someone was so amazing and made one for each of the two days. It is amazing.

@all who want exclusivity: for 40 GBP? Are you ****ting me? Few facts: Alakazam is a business. It needs to make a profit to stay afloat. Just preselling this doesn't make sense and for some reason I doubt that this would be profitable. This is probably a strategy to presell to fans and the sell at a higher price point later. Totally legitimate. Regarding "availability". Yes, the wording was ****e...at best. But see Mark Chandaues definition regarding the "contract" you entered.

@all who still moan: you ****ers got the best teaching for a one handed billet switch on video EVER. That alone is worth way more than the whole ****ing lecture. So stop moaning and start picking up all the frickin huge gold nuggets that Marc gave us in the lecture.
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This lecture was amazing.

IF you are able to purchase it, I highly, highly recommend it.

I also hope Alakazam "monetises" the hell out of it (in joke for those out of the "T" section). They (& Marc) deserve to make all the money they can and, for those who may be a bit more self-serving, the more money they make, the more of these they will do, including perhaps bringing people back for second/third courses, so think about that.

Just IMO.
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I hope they make it available one more time so I can buy it AGAIN!
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I didn't catch it, and I was disappointed it wasn't available afterwards. But...once I understood that it was sold on limited availability, then I thought not making it available again was the right thing to do.

If Peter decides to change the business model on these lectures, fine. But he should honor the original agreement he made with these Marc Paul customers. Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I would think that the idea here was that lecturers would be more willing to share pet items with a smaller committed base, than something aimed at a wider audience.
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Crap - I haven't been on the Café much, and I don't get any promotional emails from either Marc Paul or Alakazam. I am just hearing about this and I am super disappointed that I missed this. I dearly hope this is opened up for sale again, even if it's at a higher price.
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Best thing I've seen this year....
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On Apr 22, 2018, Last Laugh wrote:
Crap - I haven't been on the Café much, and I don't get any promotional emails from either Marc Paul or Alakazam. I am just hearing about this and I am super disappointed that I missed this. I dearly hope this is opened up for sale again, even if it's at a higher price.



Ditto
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Put me on that list too. I hope it will be availabile soon
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Ditto - would love to get this!
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On Apr 22, 2018, landmark wrote:
I didn't catch it, and I was disappointed it wasn't available afterwards. But...once I understood that it was sold on limited availability, then I thought not making it available again was the right thing to do.

If Peter decides to change the business model on these lectures, fine. But he should honor the original agreement he made with these Marc Paul customers. Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but I would think that the idea here was that lecturers would be more willing to share pet items with a smaller committed base, than something aimed at a wider audience.

Agree with everything you say.
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Sometimes it's a shame when we miss out on things, that's just life isn't it?

For those of us who did buy it, is it fair on us if it was re-sold?
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Sometimes it's a shame when we miss out on things, that's just life isn't it?

For those of us who did buy it, is it fair on us if it was re-sold?



This is a good concept to think about: "is it fair"?

Is what fair? In what context? Why do you expect it to be fair? Is there only one solution that would be defined as fair to you (not to YOU, Iain, a general you)?

If it was re-offered but at $5,000 a pop, a portion of which went to everyone who originally bought it would it be fair?

If most people who bought it decided it was ok to release it again, is that fair? Is it fair for you to say no and disagree with most people who bought it?

Would it be MORE fair if they just redid the whole thing? What if I think that option is the most unfair of all?

Conversations like this make me think of when I talk to my son and he talks about fairness, I'm not really sure people know/agree what's fair. This, of course, fundamentally runs counter to the concept of fairness.
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Life is not fair, that's the reality of this. Hopefully, this is part of what we teach our kids. This whole thread is crazy. Very few here bought it because of its exclusivity. They bought it because they wanted the material, were a fan of Marc and his material or didn't want to miss out. Not because of it being limited or exclusive. That may have been a supposed added feature but not the decisive determining factor for most here. So it shouldn't be a cause of dismay.
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Sure, sometimes life isn't fair...but we are talking about buying something under certain conditions. Clear ones.

Sometimes we miss out on things, that can be seen as unfair too...so, as life is unfair, let's not re-release it...
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POINT ONE
I didn’t buy this, so it would be great for me if it came out for sale now… especially as it will no doubt be cheaper than the original purchasers paid for it, if not straight away then come Black Friday – but either way it will be cheaper in the near future…

POINT TWO
I also hate, hate, hate – exclusive content. There are backlashes against people and companies that offer that on KS – as it’s such a bad concept and awful PR for them [long term] – they always lose sales long term against any short term [quick buck] increase…

So you would think I would be in favour of this being released now.

I am not.

I argued the above points to Pete Turner before he released IS3 as he was offering exclusive content for presales [I had the presale] but I thought it was a terrible idea on others… and on his brand... I still do

You may have people like Jacob saying it doesn’t matter and it grows the art, or late comers will have to pay more…

The problem with buying ideas [presentational or method] is that the theoretical worth of those ideas goes down with each subsequent purchase. It won’t matter if I pay £10,000 for the course, and you paid £10 – my having it as well… and each other late adopter, will make the package you bought less proprietorial... so what you got for £10 will in effect be worth less... remember the good old days when ideas/methods were passed on in a very limited person to person manner

If people who paid for this – when it was sold as exclusive – say they are not happy, why should they be when they were ‘lied to’ when they bought the package… then either it should not be sold after the fact… or those people should be refunded, and Alakazam will no doubt make their money back [and some] on all the extra sales.

Now that would be fair for all
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I bought this and have watch it a couple of times. It's good solid information, not earth shattering, but solid. I bought it for content as Mindpro said, not because I thought it was exclusive. How big is the market for this type of thing really? If Marc makes a little more from a extended run, good on him he deserves it, it's his info. If Nardi makes a little more from what, 50 more sales, 100, big deal, great, he stays in business a bit longer to bring us more professional coaching. I have no problem with it being re-released, but at a higher price.
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On Apr 27, 2018, takeachance wrote:
I have no problem with it being re-released, but at a higher price.


Nice condition...

The question was what would be fair

For you - you got what you wanted and aren't bothered [as long as it costs more]

But those who feel 'suckered' into a YOLO / buy it now or never purchase... then what would be fair for them [?]

I think people should be able to buy a copy - but only once someone who has already bought one dies... to keep the balance/value

Or in a more serious question...

... surely the teachers were meant to teach the same course every [?] 6 months/2 years/etc ... that wasn't ever put into the 'contract' that this course would never run again

So isn't this being sold the same as a new course [of the same material/teacher] being run [?]

The only difference is the costs to Nardi/Marc in shooting a new one... and late adopters not being able to ask questions during the course that will be answered
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So wait, did Alakazam promise exclusivity for this product? It doesn't sound like that's what happened...
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This was the text - apparently - in emails and on the booking page:



"Hi Guys, Just want to remind you that even though the courses are saved into your account to watch or download after the live event they are not available to purchase after the live event. So you do need to pre-book your tickets. Best Regards Peter Nardi"

I say apparently - as this was from Colin (CJ) - I'm sure he's correct, but I didn't see/read it myself
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All academy lectures are available for a set amount of time and two different prices. I forgot about the Spelmann one, I'd have liked to have seen it but can't.

I'll get over it though.
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