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Scott Cram
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One mentalism video that I'm surprised I don't see more reference to is the Falkenstein & Willard videos from L&L.

The first tape is a performance of their blindfolded Q&A act, their two-way mind-reading act, and their rope escape with a volunteer (unusual for a mental act, that escape). The second video is the explanations of everything on the first video.

If, like me, the stage isn't your arena, you'll love the close-up & parlour mental routines on the third video. There are some killer ideas here. My favorite is the first card routine on the tape. One person is blindfolded, while the other holds up some cards for various audience members to point at, and the blindfolded performer instantly names the card. The experiment is concluded by having the audience select one without revealing it to ANYBODY, and yet the blindfolded partner is STILL able to reveal it! This is a great routine for a trick you'd probably never consider doing otherwise.

Don't worry, there's plenty of one-person routines on here, including a mentalism use for Ball & Tube and Glorpy (I've even used this as a magic store demo!). Personally, I've found this to be one of the lighter, more "fun" mentalism videos.

Hmmmm...maybe I shouldn't be recommending these. I should keep some of this stuff to myself. Smile
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One of the best mentalism videos I've ever seen is Jon Tremaine's. Lots of great, very practical effects, explained simply and clearly.

The technical quality is poor (you can hear a radio transmission interfering with the audio) but it's one of the best comprehensive collections of material I've encountered.
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Useful thread. I've been recently burned buying a few mental DVDs that were clearly rereleases from older videos and the dealers do not make this clear (a bit like many magic publishers who fail to provide the publication dates of material).

My most recent disappointment material wise, is the Andy Nyman lecture released by International Magic in London. Toe-curling embarassing and more of a dry-run version than a quality production. Clearly a talented guy, but this release does him no favours.
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On 2002-08-09 05:30, Gary wrote:
Useful thread. I've been recently burned buying a few mental DVDs that were clearly rereleases from older videos and the dealers do not make this clear (a bit like many magic publishers who fail to provide the publication dates of material).

My most recent disappointment material wise, is the Andy Nyman lecture released by International Magic in London. Toe-curling embarassing and more of a dry-run version than a quality production. Clearly a talented guy, but this release does him no favours.


Gary, what was the main problem with these releases? Was it the poor production values (pretty typical with lecture videos, I suppose)?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean in the first part of your post. Are you saying that some dealers' ads imply that the DVD is a new title, as opposed to the same material but just in a different format?
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Yes Carl,

Unless you are tracking what's available, it's not alway obvious what's been transferred from videos that have been kicking around for a few years. Nothing wrong with that of course, but some releases would have been better left to die a natural death as opposed to a new life in a new format, but business is business.

There is classic material out there that will never date and always inspire, and others that should have been smothered at birth.

If there are performers whose work you admire, then perhaps that's the way to go.
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What is the most complete and amazing effect video that discover about metal binding ?
Does Patrik Kuff video teach me how to bend spoon in spectator hand ?
Please advise me.
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This question gets asked nearly every week in the mentalism forum, and in fact was answered earlier in this thread, as well as when you just posted it over in the "Penny for Your Thoughts". Section.

In short, get the Banachek video on bending. For an explanation of why, see the post in the other section, or any of the dozens of older threads in that section asking this exact same question.
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Hmm if you'd ask me i would recommend the Kuffs video over the Banachek one!

I dont want to offend anyone, but i really disliked the Banachek tape. The Kuffs video has a lot more material, in my opinion is better explained even thought Patrick has a french accentwhich made it harder for me to anderstand since i am from germany!

The way they presented the routines in Psycokinetic Silverware was really annoying sorry to say that but thats the way i feel!

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I feel that Banachek teaches more in-depth than Kuffs. He goes into details on psychological and misdirectional approaches that Patrik doesn't even mention, which make the material infinitely more deceptive.

There are also other more important reasons, but you'll have to search in the previous posts for those, because I've been asked not to post it again since it's been beaten to death in at least two or three discussions in "Penny for Your Thoughts" over the last year or so.

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I have been search the older threads about metal bending, but I am confuse.
Someone have an opini that "Patrik Kuff the real work" discovering about spiral bending (many variation & complete) and someone said that Psychokinetic Silverware (gary & Banachek) discover about bending metal on spectator hand.

Does Patrik Kuff discovering about how to bending metal on spectator hand ?

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If by "spiral bending" you mean putting a twist into a spoon, that's not Patrik's. It was independently developed by Banachek and Ben Harris. Harris published it in his book Off the Wall, Banachek taught it on his Psychokinetic Silverware video.
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Does Patrik Kuff video teach me how to bend spoon in spectator hand ?
My question has not answered.

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I honestly don't recall, but Banachek's video does. He teaches two methods, one where the participant holds the spoon in her fist with the handle sticking out and it bends and (IIRC) breaks, and one where you hold it on your open palm and the participant rubs it with her finger, and it visibly bends up under her finger.
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Thank you Andy Leviss,
I has download your video in your site.
You're so coolll... Smile
But the quality of your video is not good.
Thanks.
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Which video? The only videos on our site are of my business partner, Andi Gladwin, so I can't take credit for that :o)
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Andy Gladwin ?
ooo... I see... Sorry... Smile

Some week ago I confuse to choose what is the most perfect in metal bending,
Patrik Kuff product (Metal Bending the real work) or Banachek product (psychokinetic silverware).
Then I buy BOTH. (I spent my money for comparing this)
And my result from comparing them is...
Patrik Kuff is the best of the best.
Trust me, you can do all tricks when you learn from Patrik Kuff video.
Bending or twisting/spiralling metal on your/spectator hand, plastic spoon bending, fork,.. etc.
Various method to develop your own routine.
There are no moves in the Banachek video that are not covered in the Kuff video.
After learning from Kuff I can guess what Banachek doing in his logical show.
(thanks to callin, he is the master of comparison)
Andy Alviss advice many people to buy the Banachek video because he crash with Patrik Kuff.
You can find the topic Andy Alviss vs Patrik Kuff in this forum.

I'am just a costumer,
I don't know if other tricks copyrighted by someone else.
Sorry.
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Shanyuen,

I suspect that you are right. There's a disappointing - but not unexpected - amount of dishonest promotion of material in this field. People support their friends' products, and their friends write the foreward to their 'book' (as in the case above with Mr. Leviss and Banachek. as for putting 'book' in parentheses, well, in just about every other realm of literate human existence, what people in magic/mentalism are passing off as 'books' would be called 'booklets'. just a minor gripe of mine).

The Leviss-Kuffs controversy is also interesting in this context. Perhaps people who have 'crashed' (as you put it) should not be writing (invariably negatively) about their rival's material. It's almost as bad as writing positive reviews about one's friend's material (but that latter is worse because it leads people to spend their money on something that comes from a biased reviewer or at least one who cannot be dispassionate due to the nature of their relationship with the author of the reviewed material).

Magic/mentalism thrives on deception; if we always let our spectators know what we we're up to then we'd be out of a job! But this dependency on deception should be limited to our performing personas (or, better yet, to the METHODS used in performing), and should not be allowed to play a role in inter-personal relations, in my opinion. Reviewers must be objective if they are to be useful. If for whatever reason people cannot be objective (i.e., they're personally acquainted with the author of the material) then they should not be reviewers. Ever notice how the people who contribute to the online-visions site always have their products reviewed favourably on that site? What service does this offer potential consumers? Aren't we ripped off enough by magic-ads? (just for the record, I love that site and find it useful in most other ways. It is precisely because it's such a high-quality site that the incongruity of biased reviews is so apparent).

Just a rant, but one of immediate relevance to this thread.

Disagree if you like; pluralism is a virtue of our society.

p.s.-- We're lucky that name-dropping is so rampant in this (and, admittedly, many other) field(s). It means that a reviewer is inadvertedly showing their true colours ("When my friend Harry Houdini asked me to review his recent effect, my first thought was...")
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Staggered to see Gary's comments re the Andy Nyman tape. I thought it was excellent. Not only is the material very strong, but the advice is great.
Yeas its not the highest production tape in the world, but the International tapes never are.
I heartily recommend the tape.
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Hi Critic,

Agree that International Magic's approach to video making is point and shoot, and while this is hardly at the cutting edge of technology, we do get to see many performers do their thing.

I was so disappointed with Andy on this tape. He's an inventive and funny guy, but the presentation came across as unprofessional and badly thrown together.

Some of the routines were squirm-in-the-seat embarrassing and looked like they had been scripted on the back of envelopes seconds before the shoot.

Andy kept asking how long he had left and looked like he would have rather been elsewhere.

The event was lifted by the involvement of DB for the last routine, but in all, a major disappointment.
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Hi,

Get the Cassidy tape, he gives away his act.

Tremaine's tape is OK if you like card effects, his billets routines are inferior. Lapping and reading in the lap.

Yours faithfully

Smile Dan Kirsch Smile
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