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Titanas V.I.P. 1995 Posts |
Hey guys,
Magic from Holland and Ron Timmer have a new release called Chosen. Check this out here: http://www.murphysmagic.com/product.aspx?id=61955 Best regards, Titanas
Product Developer @ Murphys Magic Supplies
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
What's the motivation for reversing the card in the deck only to immediately retrieve it again?
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Rizzo Inner circle East Coast 3346 Posts |
Looks real clean. Anyone see it live yet ?
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On May 7, 2018, novasteeple wrote: I agree, it needs some time delay. Maybe revealing the prediction card first and then ribbon spread the deck to show the selection matches. But since they did not do it this way it makes me think that it can't be done that way. |
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
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On May 7, 2018, videoman wrote: I think it could be done that way if I have the method right. But that would only slightly improve the problem. I think there needs to be a direct or indirect explanation for the handling of the selected card. David Parr's Game of Life and Death (one deck) and Copycat (two decks) are both superb effects with reversed selections in spreads, but the presentations make perfect sense. |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I think the ruse of saying you are going to place it somewhere for safekeeping where you can't get to it would be enough explanation and would fly by almost everyone.
But then immediately removing it is the part that makes no sense. |
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
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On May 7, 2018, videoman wrote: Yeah, I'm not sure how putting the card back in the deck would come across as safer than letting the spectator hold the card rhe whole time. Of course, the method prevents that. That's fine, but the unusual handling needs to be motivated. |
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Ron Timmer New user The Netherlands 51 Posts |
Hi Guys,
Here is a full performance trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiwXCVquG6Q When I perform it for real audience, this presentation makes sense. I have to say it is not that perfect now since I almost never perform in English and used to do this one in my own (Dutch) language You can either show the prediction first and then take it out. Makes no difference. You can have the spectator makes the spread and (s)he can takes out the selected card, makes no difference.
Ron - MagicfromHolland.com
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Ceierry Inner circle Europe 1578 Posts |
It's very good, and the presentation justify everything IMO.
I like the way you say "I got a gig a week ago.." or "they shuffle the deck 20 times etc.." you're saying a message with those lines nice performance, nice reveal, looks clean, looks like a winner to me. Olivier Boës
Author of 10S Star Sign Divination - olivier.ceierry@gmail.com for a digital copy.
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novasteeple Regular user 170 Posts |
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On May 8, 2018, Ron Timmer wrote: Thanks, the full performance does make a little more sense. But the patter is basically a re-enactment of a previous performance, and that may not work for everyone. It's also still a little weird to pass the selection through the deck just to show how the card looked for someone else's performance. I think we need to brainstorm a better motivation. |
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RNK Inner circle 7491 Posts |
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On May 8, 2018, Ceierry wrote: I like it as well. I think the structure of the routine will work fine. Might have to pick this up....
Check out Bafflingbob.com
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caigy Inner circle England 1199 Posts |
That looked very nice
Can this be done completely in the hands without a table, by just casually spreading or fanning the cards? All the best, Paul McCaig.
Exclusive Worldwide Producer and Supplier of the Grismer Lock.
Top Class, Individually Crafted Performance Pieces, For The Discerning Psychological Entertainer www.psychicmentality.com |
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
I own it, I talk about how most card tricks follow a formula which is - the spectator "selects" a card, the card is lost and then the magician finds it. But finding lost items is not magical. I lose and find my keys or my phone every day, and when I find the object, I never think to myself ... a magic trick!
During that talk - the spectator notices that one card in the spread is a blue backed indifferent card and I slide it out as if it were accidental and keep talking "Wouldn't you like to see a card trick for once... that looked like real magic?" So the card is selected from a face down deck and reversed in the deck. The spectator pays careful attention to what face up card theirs is placed on (I let them know it's a key card) and then they bury it in the deck (again, telling them THEY get to lose it - not the magician who can't be trusted) Yes, there is some time delay - but enforcing that their card is NOT lost. In fact, I say - "A random person who walks up right now could easily find your card, because it's the only one reversed in the deck. So finding your card is not the magic trick." And then I point to the indifferent card on the table, "Rather, wouldn't it be a magic trick if your card MATCHED that card? A card placed out in the open as a prediction BEFORE your card was ever chosen? I fan the cards face up - and they note their card is STILL on top of the same card they placed it on _ THEY turn it over - and THEY turn over the prediction and they both match I love this trick - so easy to do. (to answer Paul's question) I've been working on a standing routine without a table, it's totally possible, you just need to change a few things |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts |
There looks a very suspious block off unspread cards on the uncut demo imo that explains my speculation of the method , best wishes Tarik 🙂
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2062 Posts |
Nice presentation, David and thanks for sharing your review over at Hocus-Pocus.. it’s a little annoying that the ad copy is misleading though, but it still looks like a very good effect.
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Ron Timmer New user The Netherlands 51 Posts |
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On May 8, 2018, TuneHV wrote: Hi, I am learing here. What is misleading as I do not want to have any of that?
Ron - MagicfromHolland.com
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David Numen Inner circle 2070 Posts |
The only way this would be a logical effect would be if the turnover of a card was done in secret - they take the pack behind their back or under the table or whatever. If you have a prediction on the table and they take a card...well why would you do ANYTHING other with the card than show it matches? Why would you put it back in the deck only to spread the deck and withdraw it?
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caigy Inner circle England 1199 Posts |
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On May 8, 2018, DavidKenney wrote: Thank you David. All the best, Paul McCaig.
Exclusive Worldwide Producer and Supplier of the Grismer Lock.
Top Class, Individually Crafted Performance Pieces, For The Discerning Psychological Entertainer www.psychicmentality.com |
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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2062 Posts |
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On May 9, 2018, Ron Timmer wrote: I was referring to what was said about it in this review: https://youtu.be/nvhx6Aoju1A |
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cardbiker Inner circle 1484 Posts |
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On May 9, 2018, TuneHV wrote: So sticky cards might be used then ??? I’ve ordered this and won’t be pleased if they are! |
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