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Ado Inner circle New York City 1033 Posts |
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On Jan 24, 2017, Magic-Daniel wrote: Interestingly, your message predates my experience (and that of many others) at Magifest by a a few day... Embarrassing is the right word to use; audience members were leaving the room one after the other during the performance :/ P! |
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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
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On Jan 29, 2017, Ado wrote: Yes, unfortunately I had to do the same at his lecture in London earlier this month. Couldn't watch it till the end. But hopefully you saw Ben Earl also and him taking sleight of hand and naturalness to a whole new level☺ |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts |
Whenever I do magic for laymen, I use the Pass multiple times. All they see is magic, no technique. And the magic they see cannot be accomplished as cleanly using any other method.
I'm not in practice the way I used to be before becoming the editor of Genii, however I still did it a bunch of times for magicians who asked at the Magi-Fest last week. When I hit a good one they're pretty impressed. |
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Dorian Rhodell Inner circle San Francisco, CA. 1633 Posts |
Hi Richard, I remember when you were hitting that pass pretty good at Larry's house all those years ago...1996, 97 or so.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On Apr 26, 2004, turnerhooch wrote: how can there be a more deceptive way than you doing nothing, yet something happened? that's magic, baby!!! I do the pass all the time and really enjoy the nothingness that it allows. However, I don't promote the Pass as an end-all, be-all. What sleight you use has to do with context. It seems these days, especially with coin workers, speed and dexterity have taken center stage. And to that I say... "I saw you flash. Saw you flash again. And again... and again" That's not magic. That's some guy who looked like he worked on a bunch of sleights for a long time ... except he's flashing.
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Magic-Daniel Inner circle Denmark 1328 Posts |
I have never ever heard a real world performer who is a master of sleight of hand and the pass, say, "whats the deal with pass?. One of the worst sleights? ". I only hear those comments from magicians who don't master the pass.
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lord_wallmotto Loyal user 291 Posts |
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On Feb 5, 2017, Magic-Daniel wrote: You never master the pass, the pass masters you. |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts |
You can master the Pass, however it takes daily practice. If you don't use it, you lose it. Not only do you have to practice every day, you must eventually reach a point where you're not thinking about it. And in all of that you have to make sure that your technique doesn't wander.
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Hookem New user 85 Posts |
There are several effects I do that require a pass. No other sleight would work. That said, I agree with the OP that a pass is unnecessary for controlling a single card. You can do a side steal under people's noses and they won't suspect a thing.
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ASW Inner circle 1879 Posts |
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On Feb 3, 2017, Richard Kaufman wrote: How fascinating.
Whenever I find myself gripping anything too tightly I just ask myself "How would Guy Hollingworth hold this?"
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Douglas.M Elite user 465 Posts |
I see that a lot of people took the bait on this post. In my opinion it is a highly suggestive query in that it implies that a certain answer should be given- based on biased false presuppositions. Rather than waste my time giving my experience with the Classic Pass as a useful technique (which is not the answer the OP is seeking), I'll just say that if I couldn't do the the sleight I wouldn't exactly brag about it. Nor would I attempt to get other people to jump on a flimsy bandwagon of support by coloring the sleight negatively.
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Sahin K New user Toronto 3 Posts |
I have bought every dvd and book possible on PASS..
here is my thought...they don't help unless you practice...so use all the tips and hints they teach you! |
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Ray J Inner circle St. Louis, MO 1503 Posts |
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On Apr 2, 2019, Sahin K wrote: I agree that practice is key, but be careful that you don't practice badly. They say practice makes perfect but that isn't true unless your fundamentals are right. You can pick up a lot of bad habits and practicing them habitually will embed those flaws into your technique. So practice perfectly!
It's never crowded on the extra mile....
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aabc Regular user 153 Posts |
It is also worth looking at a range of techniques for different passes before you start to practice one properly, so that you can get the version that will fit you/your hands best. For example Jay Sankey has smaller hands and so he has tailored his pass to be able to cope with angles.
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Sebastian Oudot Regular user Somewhere Between Two Worlds 197 Posts |
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On Apr 3, 2019, Tortuga wrote: This is so true. Vince Lombardi: "Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect." |
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Laughing New user 65 Posts |
I have only been doing magic for about 2 years, so take this comment in context. "There is no such thing as an invisible classic pass" I have been practicing the CP for about 6 months or so, so I know nothing. However I have never seen, in performance, an invisble classic pass. They are always, somewhat invisble.
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magicfish Inner circle 7004 Posts |
"However I have never seen, in performance, an invisble classic pass".
Of course not. |
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judeh New user 51 Posts |
There are a number of different passes. Is there one or two that are widely accepted as more helpful or versatile?
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