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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
Can anyone give me some advice on how to train a few of my birds for flyback? Thanks for any replies!!
"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
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Michael Bourada![]() New user 42 Posts ![]() |
Tony Clark has terrific methods. They work for me.
Experience the Magic.
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Darcy![]() Regular user 128 Posts ![]() |
Greg Frewin's new videos have several great methods.
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sperris![]() Special user http://www.Anti-Conjuror.com 880 Posts ![]() |
I use the reward technique, its a sure fire way to have them return on a dime, however you need to have lots of time and patience but it is worth it...
sperris
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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
Reward technique? Is this on the Tony Clark videos as well?
"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
"If there be a skeptical star, I was born under it. Yet I have lived all my days in complete astonishment." -W. MacNeile Dixon |
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sperris![]() Special user http://www.Anti-Conjuror.com 880 Posts ![]() |
No, Tony does not cover the reward technique his method relies on repetition of tossing the dove from hand to hand. The reward system gives the doves a reason to come back to you, because they're hungry. It is very involved to do it right and honestly still there are times where the dove won't come back, it all depends on the venue etc. They're doves and they'll do what they want, but I have found that the reward method works a lot better and faster than the repetition techniues that are out there. The way I do it was originally developed by Tim Starr I believe, Amos Levkovitch, Brett Daniels, Lance, etc. use this sort of method too.
sperris
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majimagic![]() New user 28 Posts ![]() |
What are Greg Frewins videos called
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Darcy![]() Regular user 128 Posts ![]() |
Umm there titled "A complete course in dove magic" its a set of 3 dvds, and it goes through a ton of materail. They sell for like $150 and you have to buy them as a set. He sells them from his site http://www.gregfrewin.com
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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
I am thinking about getting the video, "Tony Clark Unmasks"...Can someone who has this video please tell me if he covers the use of the invisable harness on it as well as flyback?
"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
"If there be a skeptical star, I was born under it. Yet I have lived all my days in complete astonishment." -W. MacNeile Dixon |
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Dave Scribner![]() Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 5134 Posts ![]() |
Dovemagic9, Tony's unmasked volume I covers care, feeding, training which includes the fly back effect and the use of the invisible harness. He demonstrates the harness, how to put it on the bird, the loading and also shows a few productions using it. I'd recommend getting Tony's complete set, unmasks, unmasks II, behind the seams and timing is everything.
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MagicalPirate![]() Special user Shamokin, PA 828 Posts ![]() |
I work my doves in a small enclosed hallway in our home to train them for flybacks. I make sure there are no distractions and nothing else to perch on except me. It does take a lot of time and energy to train for the flyback and I agree with Sperris, they are doves and they will do what they want.
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Dave Scribner![]() Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 5134 Posts ![]() |
Martin, that's when you just hit them along side of the head with a big stick to get their attention
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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
Thanks very much guys...I intend on accumulating Tonys complete set over time as well as picking up some other dove videos. Sounds like Tony has some great stuff...Also does Tony or someone else you know of have a gloves to dove effect? I have been looking for a good one, but have been unable to find one...this is actually the effect I wanted to train a bird flyback for.
"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
"If there be a skeptical star, I was born under it. Yet I have lived all my days in complete astonishment." -W. MacNeile Dixon |
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Dave Scribner![]() Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 5134 Posts ![]() |
Tony does show a gloves to dove and so does Andy Amyx. Both are about the same and work well. Shimada also has one on his tape.
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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
Thanks for the reply Dave...sounds like the Clark videos will answer just about all of my questions.
"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
"If there be a skeptical star, I was born under it. Yet I have lived all my days in complete astonishment." -W. MacNeile Dixon |
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dove-boy Special user Joe Yu (Stage Name) 545 Posts ![]() |
Hi dovemagic9
Tony's Unmask 1 tape is the one I have seen covers the MOST in-depth details on the dove flyback! As for Greg Frewin's new dove DVD (part 1) he didn't show much of the dove training method as compared with Tony. Btw he too uses the feeding of seeds method. Btw, Greg Frewin is releasing his highly secretly method (A hand gimmick) of producing dove (like dove toss) WITHOUT sleeve. I've seen it live thrice & on his 'Magic at Sea 'special. It is beautiful. Though a bit anglely but at the right angle, it looks magically! Be sure to grab one from Greg Frewin when is out & adopt to your dove flyback routine! ![]() Hope it helps ![]() doveboy |
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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
Thanks for the advice dove-boy....does Greg have a website?
"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
"If there be a skeptical star, I was born under it. Yet I have lived all my days in complete astonishment." -W. MacNeile Dixon |
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Dave Scribner![]() Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 5134 Posts ![]() |
Al, Greg's web address is http://www.gregfrewin.com
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latentimage![]() Elite user No More Room In Hell.. 445 Posts ![]() |
Thanks very much Dave
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"Come to the edge," he said, They Said "We Are Afraid," "Come to the edge," he said, They Came, He Pushed Them...And They Flew. -Apollinaire
"If there be a skeptical star, I was born under it. Yet I have lived all my days in complete astonishment." -W. MacNeile Dixon |
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mike_york![]() Loyal user 228 Posts ![]() |
Where can I find information on the reward dove fly back methoed? I have tried to use Tony's but it has never worked out for me.
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