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Saturn UK
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A new updated version has been released and I like it a lot.

It is compact, folds flat for transport easily, has magnetic locking and looks like a cardboard box.

Check it out here https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-mag......ick.html

We are also supplying free of charge some extra gimmicks to enhance the use of the box for anyone buying this from us, along with a bonus video to show you how to install the extra gimmicks.
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I have the original version and would like to know some more details.
1. What are the dimensions when flat?
2. How easy is it to collapse and re-build?
3. Can it be flat and loaded?
4. Can it be assembled in front of an audience?
5. Does it "work" the same as the original?

Thanks, Ted
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Love the look of the new box, looks very natural, well as natural as you can get! Very tempted!
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On May 22, 2018, tgplano wrote:
I have the original version and would like to know some more details.
1. What are the dimensions when flat?
2. How easy is it to collapse and re-build?
3. Can it be flat and loaded?
4. Can it be assembled in front of an audience?
5. Does it "work" the same as the original?

Thanks, Ted


1: The envelope it comes in is approx 55 x 43cm
2: Very see my Facebook Vlog https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/blog/
3: No
4: Yes but it would not be loaded which would be of no use.
5: The method yes but box design is different and improved.

We also include a free magnet pack to add to the box to make things a little bit better if you buy from Saturn Magic. https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-mag......ick.html
Mark Traversoni

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I have it and love it as it provides just another look in addition to the white and black one. I'm not going to go into details why this is great prop.
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On May 22, 2018, Saturn UK wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, tgplano wrote:
I have the original version and would like to know some more details.
1. What are the dimensions when flat?
2. How easy is it to collapse and re-build?
3. Can it be flat and loaded?
4. Can it be assembled in front of an audience?
5. Does it "work" the same as the original?

Thanks, Ted


1: The envelope it comes in is approx 55 x 43cm
2: Very see my Facebook Vlog https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/blog/
3: No
4: Yes but it would not be loaded which would be of no use.
5: The method yes but box design is different and improved.

We also include a free magnet pack to add to the box to make things a little bit better if you buy from Saturn Magic. https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-mag......ick.html


Doesn't it already come with magnets or do you provide extras?
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On May 22, 2018, rklew64 wrote:
I have it and love it as it provides just another look in addition to the white and black one. I'm not going to go into details why this is great prop.


You don't have to, a simple google search will show the curious more than enough on the trailer. It really p***es me off the way its gone. No more secrets, all about the sale. There's zero chance I will buy this or any of the other of the "latest & greatest" that Mr or Mrs Google can find with the explanation trailers.
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On May 23, 2018, innercirclewannabe wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, rklew64 wrote:
I have it and love it as it provides just another look in addition to the white and black one. I'm not going to go into details why this is great prop.


You don't have to, a simple google search will show the curious more than enough on the trailer. It really p***es me off the way its gone. No more secrets, all about the sale. There's zero chance I will buy this or any of the other of the "latest & greatest" that Mr or Mrs Google can find with the explanation trailers.


Don’t forget YouTube.
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On May 23, 2018, magicinsight wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, Saturn UK wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, tgplano wrote:
I have the original version and would like to know some more details.
1. What are the dimensions when flat?
2. How easy is it to collapse and re-build?
3. Can it be flat and loaded?
4. Can it be assembled in front of an audience?
5. Does it "work" the same as the original?

Thanks, Ted


1: The envelope it comes in is approx 55 x 43cm
2: Very see my Facebook Vlog https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/blog/
3: No
4: Yes but it would not be loaded which would be of no use.
5: The method yes but box design is different and improved.

We also include a free magnet pack to add to the box to make things a little bit better if you buy from Saturn Magic. https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-mag......ick.html


Doesn't it already come with magnets or do you provide extras?


Our magnet set is in addition to the ones installed, I feel they are needed I'm surprised they did not fit them or something else to do the job as standard.
Mark Traversoni

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Does this version still use Velcro?
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What is the size of the box when assembled ?
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What is the size of the box when assembled ?


See here for details https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/blog/
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On May 23, 2018, Saturn UK wrote:
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On May 23, 2018, magicinsight wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, Saturn UK wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, tgplano wrote:
I have the original version and would like to know some more details.
1. What are the dimensions when flat?
2. How easy is it to collapse and re-build?
3. Can it be flat and loaded?
4. Can it be assembled in front of an audience?
5. Does it "work" the same as the original?

Thanks, Ted


1: The envelope it comes in is approx 55 x 43cm
2: Very see my Facebook Vlog https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/blog/
3: No
4: Yes but it would not be loaded which would be of no use.
5: The method yes but box design is different and improved.

We also include a free magnet pack to add to the box to make things a little bit better if you buy from Saturn Magic. https://www.saturnmagic.co.uk/saturn-mag......ick.html


Doesn't it already come with magnets or do you provide extras?


Our magnet set is in addition to the ones installed, I feel they are needed I'm surprised they did not fit them or something else to do the job as standard.


Does this mean that it is not really working as well as it should with the supplied magnets?
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These are extra and nothing to do with the ones supplied.
Mark Traversoni

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I love how clever the amazebox is. I have my black one collecting dust until I find something cool to use it for. To be fair, I don’t so much mentalism work.
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On May 23, 2018, innercirclewannabe wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, rklew64 wrote:
I have it and love it as it provides just another look in addition to the white and black one. I'm not going to go into details why this is great prop.


You don't have to, a simple google search will show the curious more than enough on the trailer. It really p***es me off the way its gone. No more secrets, all about the sale. There's zero chance I will buy this or any of the other of the "latest & greatest" that Mr or Mrs Google can find with the explanation trailers.


I was going to say that while I agree with you, utility items are usually a bit more google-proof because, in most cases, they seem a minor part of the presentation. Nope- google cardboard box prediction and a link to buy from Vanishing Inc comes up near the top. F. that. (Cue all the 'pros' lining up to say that specs don't care about secrets, real performers don't care about Google, blah, blah blah.).
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Now try that same Google search in an incognito browser, where google is not using your magicians history to show you more relevant searches, and you will get a different result with none of the links you mention.

99.99% of spectators just want to be entertained and have no interest in googling anything magic related. The couple who are also have to be savvy enough to get the correct search terms, which is NOT a given.

Believe what you want, but I think this is much to do about nothing.

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On May 23, 2018, innercirclewannabe wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, rklew64 wrote:
I have it and love it as it provides just another look in addition to the white and black one. I'm not going to go into details why this is great prop.


You don't have to, a simple google search will show the curious more than enough on the trailer. It really p***es me off the way its gone. No more secrets, all about the sale. There's zero chance I will buy this or any of the other of the "latest & greatest" that Mr or Mrs Google can find with the explanation trailers.


I was going to say that while I agree with you, utility items are usually a bit more google-proof because, in most cases, they seem a minor part of the presentation. Nope- google cardboard box prediction and a link to buy from Vanishing Inc comes up near the top. F. that. (Cue all the 'pros' lining up to say that specs don't care about secrets, real performers don't care about Google, blah, blah blah.).
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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I agree with Kaliix.
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On May 23, 2018, Kaliix wrote:
Now try that same Google search in an incognito browser, where google is not using your magicians history to show you more relevant searches, and you will get a different result with none of the links you mention.

99.99% of spectators just want to be entertained and have no interest in googling anything magic related. The couple who are also have to be savvy enough to get the correct search terms, which is NOT a given.

Believe what you want, but I think this is much to do about nothing.

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On May 23, 2018, innercirclewannabe wrote:
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On May 22, 2018, rklew64 wrote:
I have it and love it as it provides just another look in addition to the white and black one. I'm not going to go into details why this is great prop.


You don't have to, a simple google search will show the curious more than enough on the trailer. It really p***es me off the way its gone. No more secrets, all about the sale. There's zero chance I will buy this or any of the other of the "latest & greatest" that Mr or Mrs Google can find with the explanation trailers.


I was going to say that while I agree with you, utility items are usually a bit more google-proof because, in most cases, they seem a minor part of the presentation. Nope- google cardboard box prediction and a link to buy from Vanishing Inc comes up near the top. F. that. (Cue all the 'pros' lining up to say that specs don't care about secrets, real performers don't care about Google, blah, blah blah.).


If you're going to quote me Kaliix, will you at least quote me correctly. Also, I mentioned no words for a google search, not sure how you understood that I did? Finally, we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe that the art is dying a death because, simply put, secrets are not secrets anymore. The mystery that was once associated with what we do is now too easily exposed. Hence me taking extra care not to get caught up in the 'latest and greatest'. Good luck to those that do. I have my opinion and you have yours. Carry on.
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Innercirclewannabe, I understnd that quoting 2 replies in the same post can be confusing but you should know by now that it's typically the LAST post in the quote that is being replied to so I believe Kaliix was responding to Calvin826 and not you. And what Kaliix said is true. Googling cardboard box prediction does NOT bring up anything exposing the trick if done from a neutral browser history.

You are free to believe that the art is dying a slow death but it is difficult to provide any conclusive evidence that that is the case.
For most effects it is hard to google an expose and the vast majority of people do not bother anyway.
Not to mention that the the enjoyment and entertainment should go beyond merely the secret anyway.
But fair enough, we can agree to disagree if you like. Smile
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