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On Mar 30, 2019, Elizabeth Brookes wrote:
Today for breakfast I had two chicken fillets, grilled and with a side of steak.


Grilled ... seasoned with smoke ... when a lion eats it's prey, it is still breathing. If you were truly a carnivorous animal, you'd be able to do the same.

It's not about eating meat, it is about eating growth hormones steroids and antibiotics, with animals forced to live in their own feces in a shed never to see sunshine on their face or lay in the grass.

Law of the land: you kill it, you eat it. They don't even eat the animals, half of them "expire" and get thrown in the dumpster - your food is only worthless because you throw it away. Keep doing that, and you won't have anything to eat.

I'm not an animal, I'm not a man ... I am a human being. And I'm already off my high horse: five years ago, I posted a video tour of the McDonald's chicken nugget factory where I made fun of vegans ... then one day I realized they were right. Nobody could make me vegan before my time.

When I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong ... here is the video I should have posted five years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql8xkSYvwJs

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On Mar 30, 2019, Elizabeth Brookes wrote:
Today for breakfast I had two chicken fillets, grilled and with a side of steak.


Grilled ... seasoned with smoke ... when a lion eats it's prey, it is still breathing. If you were truly a carnivorous animal, you'd be able to do the same.



-JoeJoe


Do you read what you write? This is why I won't watch anything you post because it is likely to contain statements just as ignorant as this. Lions kill prior to eating. They are not serial killers. Certainly by the time they get to marrow and such the prey is dead.

The idea that they easy prey while breathing, and somehow this is a qualifying factor for being a carnivorous animal is just so bereft of fact it is hard not to laugh.

Please back up your claim that to be a carnivore one must eat living skims animals while they breathe.
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Lions kill prior to eating. They are not serial killers. Certainly by the time they get to marrow and such the prey is dead.


Exactly - the lion eats what he kills, he eats it fresh while it is still warm and he does so without seasoning it with anything what-so-ever ... he has the teeth, the claws, and the digestive system to do so while man does not.

The lion does not stick his prey in a box of ice for weeks and then throw it away. Man is the serial killer.

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Would if he could?

Also how about you back up the claim they eat it while it is breathing?

No need to take you seriously.
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Would if he could?

Also how about you back up the claim they eat it while it is breathing?

No need to take you seriously.



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Animals do not have the same worth as a human, until a giraffe performs life saving surgery on a child or a dog composes a symphony, go away.


True, but giraffes never make you watch YouTube videos of "Sam the Bellhop," so I figure it's a wash.
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Earth is a rare planet where "fire" is possible and therefore "cooking" is possible here. Cooked food is a rarity in the Universe and many civilizations come to Earth and pretend to be human beings for a short amount of time for the sheer pleasure of eating "cooked" food. As for the morality of eating living beings, I go back to the ancients who said "Everything is maya" - everything is an illusion. The idea that things are alive is an illusion that one must break free from. One of the oldest name for a creator being was the "Trickster" - the idea being a great trick is being played on all of us making us believe that we are somehow "inside" the physical bodies that we use to express ourselves. We are not here. The bodies are merely antennas that allows a unique expression through that body.
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...many civilizations come to Earth...


And have for thousands of years.

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...many civilizations come to Earth...


And have for thousands of years.

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Yea..... no. Not a single bit of evidence exists for ANYTHING like this. Sorry.
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Yea..... no. Not a single bit of evidence exists for ANYTHING like this. Sorry.


Are you saying if you are not aware of the existence of such evidence, the evidence possibly can't exist outside of your awareness space?
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I am saying that any evidence brought forth to this point in time has been debunked very easily.

Perhaps it exists. Perhaps it has happened. BUT the evidence that has been brought forth for examination has not stood up to scrutiny.

If you have evidence that withstands scrutiny then by all means bring it forth.
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I am saying that any evidence brought forth to this point in time has been debunked very easily.

Perhaps it exists. Perhaps it has happened. BUT the evidence that has been brought forth for examination has not stood up to scrutiny.

If you have evidence that withstands scrutiny then by all means bring it forth.


Maxim A. Makukov and Vladimir I. Shcherbak worked 13 years on the Human Genome Project. They literally helped to map the human genome. They have both come out publicly stating that the human DNA has been designed by an higher intelligence.
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I am saying that any evidence brought forth to this point in time has been debunked very easily.

Perhaps it exists. Perhaps it has happened. BUT the evidence that has been brought forth for examination has not stood up to scrutiny.

If you have evidence that withstands scrutiny then by all means bring it forth.


Maxim A. Makukov and Vladimir I. Shcherbak worked 13 years on the Human Genome Project. They literally helped to map the human genome. They have both come out publicly stating that the human DNA has been designed by an higher intelligence.


They came to a conclusion. They are entitled to their conclusion. But I would not want their conclusion taught in a science class, along with their findings on DNA, because there's no objective facts to SUPPORT their conclusion!
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Good point Ed.
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They came to a conclusion. They are entitled to their conclusion. But I would not want their conclusion taught in a science class, along with their findings on DNA, because there's no objective facts to SUPPORT their conclusion!



You generally want to look to the "Experts" of the field to know more about that field, right? Two people who gave 13 years of their lives to study the human genome, I mean who else would be more of an expert to notice the oddness in the human genome compared to other creatures on Earth?
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They came to a conclusion. They are entitled to their conclusion. But I would not want their conclusion taught in a science class, along with their findings on DNA, because there's no objective facts to SUPPORT their conclusion!



You generally want to look to the "Experts" of the field to know more about that field, right? Two people who gave 13 years of their lives to study the human genome, I mean who else would be more of an expert to notice the oddness in the human genome compared to other creatures on Earth?


I will acknowledge their work on the genome, and any physical information they find. I don't have to accept any philosophical decisions they make, nor do I want those philosophical decisions taught as science.
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I will acknowledge their work on the genome, and any physical information they find. I don't have to accept any philosophical decisions they make, nor do I want those philosophical decisions taught as science.


Well then you should also acknowledge their work on this theory for they are not simply "philosophical musings" The released a paper about it which was published on the prestigious science journal "Icarus" where they showed that the human genotic code has features that defy natural explanations.


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Here we show that the terrestrial code displays a thorough precision-type orderliness matching the criteria to be considered an informational signal. Simple arrangements of the code reveal an ensemble of arithmetical and ideographical patterns of the same symbolic language. Accurate and systematic, these underlying patterns appear as a product of precision logic and nontrivial computing rather than of stochastic processes (the null hypothesis that they are due to chance coupled with presumable evolutionary pathways is rejected with P-value < 10-13). The patterns display readily recognizable hallmarks of artificiality, among which are the symbol of zero, the privileged decimal syntax and semantical symmetries. Besides, extraction of the signal involves logically straightforward but abstract operations, making the patterns essentially irreducible to natural origin. Plausible ways of embedding the signal into the code and possible interpretation of its content are discussed. Overall, while the code is nearly optimized biologically, its limited capacity is used extremely efficiently to pass non-biological information.
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Their work to map the genome is phenomenal, they deserve full recognition for that. But their determination that this HAS to be an act of God is a philosophical conclusion on their part, and should not be taught as science. It would be as if the teacher were teaching about light refraction and chose to end with; "And we see from this that the rainbow is such a wonderful thing, that it must have been created by God!"

Understand, I am not agnostic or atheist, I believe in God, (Although not in a strict interpretation of the Bible.) But I don't think God (or a "creator,") should be taught in science class under the guise of; "theres no other way to explain it!"
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On Apr 2, 2019, ed rhodes wrote:
Their work to map the genome is phenomenal, they deserve full recognition for that. But their determination that this HAS to be an act of God is a philosophical conclusion on their part, and should not be taught as science. It would be as if the teacher were teaching about light refraction and chose to end with; "And we see from this that the rainbow is such a wonderful thing, that it must have been created by God!"

Understand, I am not agnostic or atheist, I believe in God, (Although not in a strict interpretation of the Bible.) But I don't think God (or a "creator,") should be taught in science class under the guise of; "theres no other way to explain it!"


Gotta say I like this!
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