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It is possible that Vegans do not have the strength to overcome small infections because there is something missing in their diet.
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The garden has taught me "patience."

If you think gardening requires patience, you should try hunting and fishing.

I believe these are the most productive comments in this thread.
However, the truth is, (and here I go ASSuming) That both Vegans/Vegetarians and Meat-eaters all get their food from stores. Which can be full of all kinds of things that can be harmful. I truly salute anyone who can live either totally or mostly off grid.
As far as personal attacks... I have learned that there are some of the best people with the best intentions here trying to help people. AND THEN.. there are others who APPEAR that they feel they are more meaningful on this earth than they are.

Joe, you have a great sense of who you are and your meaning in this world. Even though I don't always agree with your philosophy, I think its a wonderful thing you are who you are!
by the way... I still want to eat meant Smile
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Hi JoeJoe,

I am a meat eater and I do not want to be a vegan. That's one counterexample to your statement, "Every meat eater wants to be a vegan."

Regards, Steve
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We don’t have choices these days old boy. You want to be a vegan whether you like it or not.
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I could probably live off just salads for two or three days, so I guess I would be a good part-time vegan. Smile

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On Apr 28, 2019, JoeJoe wrote:
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On Apr 28, 2019, Mike Gainor wrote:
We were doing so well (though not very productive) in this thread without anyone adding personal attacks.


What are you talking about?? I think this is, has been, and will continue to be a productive thread.

I've planted seeds ... seeds take time to grow. It took twenty-years for me to go from eating meat to becoming vegan, I don't expect anyone here to become vegan today or even tomorrow.

The garden has taught me "patience". Smile

-JoeJoe


This is a great way to help you sleep at night. "I plant seeds, seeds take time to grow". What a wonderful excuse for failure.

These seeds are dead. Completely void after all content and logic. You are planting them in stone to boot.

You keep bring proven absolutely wrong time and time again, contradicting yourself then claiming words don't have the agreed upon meaning. Nobody takes a single thing you say seriously, even when you accidentally swerve into the truth.

Yourseeds have zero chance of growth.
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On Apr 29, 2019, Dannydoyle wrote:
These seeds are dead.


A seed has to die before it can bear fruit. Smile

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These seeds are dead.


A seed has to die before it can bear fruit. Smile

-JoeJoe

Wait, so fruit grows from death? you said nothing grows from death- for about four pages. It's clear you're making this up as you go along.
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On Apr 29, 2019, Dannydoyle wrote:
These seeds are dead.


A seed has to die before it can bear fruit. Smile

-JoeJoe

Wait, so fruit grows from death? you said nothing grows from death- for about four pages. It's clear you're making this up as you go along.


You beat me to it. Yet ANOTHER contradiction spewing from the uninformed.
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Seeds are very informed, otherwise, they would not know what to grow into.
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How about this: "every meat-eater wants to eat vegan food". You already put vegan-fries next to your animal-hamburger.

Schrodinger's cat: the cat is both alive and dead at the same time (quantum-physics). You will not know if you want to be vegan until the box is opened.

I did not know I wanted to be a vegan until I realized my diet was literally killing me. I didn't become vegan, I was already vegan ... I just stopped eating meat.

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So that is what you get from that thought experiment?

Isn't it just as likely that one will be a meat eater once that box is open? THAT IS THE POINT.

Man once you reach the limits of your experience it goes downhill fast.

Also according the the gospel of JoeJoe that experiment was published in a book. As we know all information from books is out dated. Can't now suddenly say it is valid.

I TRIED A VEGAN food. It sucks! Get over it.
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How about this: "every meat-eater wants to eat vegan food". You already put vegan-fries next to your animal-hamburger.

Schrodinger's cat: the cat is both alive and dead at the same time (quantum-physics). You will not know if you want to be vegan until the box is opened.

I did not know I wanted to be a vegan until I realized my diet was literally killing me. I didn't become vegan, I was already vegan ... I just stopped eating meat.

-JoeJoe

No. I don't want to eat vegan food. I'm a primate and therefore, an omnivore, which is why Im able to consume and subsist on both animals and plants, unlike a snake or a deer. So I eat meat and I eat fruits and vegetables. I do not eat vegan food.
Fried potatoes are not vegan food. Plants are not vegan food.
By the way, what year was the word "vegan" invented?
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It's extremely common for restaurants to have, in the least, animal fats in their french fries. That's part of what makes them taste so good. If a restaurant doesn't specify a dish is vegan, it's almost certainly not. Fun fact: The famous flavor of McDonald's french fries originally came from being cooked in beef tallow.

And I've done the vegan thing. Twice. I prefer omnivorous diets as that is far easier to hit our nutritional needs as a species, particularly since I have developed a fairly significant workout regime.
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No. I don't want to eat vegan food. I'm a primate and therefore, an omnivore, which is why Im able to consume and subsist on both animals and plants, unlike a snake or a deer. So I eat meat and I eat fruits and vegetables. I do not eat vegan food.
Fried potatoes are not vegan food. Plants are not vegan food.
By the way, what year was the word "vegan" invented?


Accoding to Wikipedia:
Donald Watson coined the term vegan in 1944 when he co-founded the Vegan Society in England. At first he used it to mean "non-dairy vegetarian", but from 1951 the Society defined it as "the doctrine that man should live without exploiting animals".
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Cool. Thanks. Just wanted to know at what point people started calling my side veggies "vegan food"
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How about this: "every meat-eater wants to eat vegan food". You already put vegan-fries next to your animal-hamburger.

How about this: "your original premise has been shot down ingloriously, so you're trying to redefine it so that you can pretend that you were right all along"?

I don't put vegan-fries next to my animal-hamburger. I'm an omnivore, so I eat meat and I eat plants.
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Isn't it just as likely that one will be a meat eater once that box is open? THAT IS THE POINT.


They die. The hamburger does not sprout a new cow, but the seed grows a new tree.

You won't know if you are alive or dead until you get sick and the doctor opens the box and let's you know: heart disease, kidney failure, liver problems, blah blah blah. Cancer can live inside you for decades without your knowledge.

I was dying for twenty years and didn't know it ... luckily, I had been on a vegetarian for eight years and was able to survive it. Now that I know whats in the box, I only want to eat food that feds me - not food that feds my diseases.

I have removed the vial of poison from the box that houses Schrodinger's cat.



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On Apr 30, 2019, S2000magician wrote:
How about this: "your original premise has been shot down ingloriously, so you're trying to redefine it so that you can pretend that you were right all along"?


No. That statement does not change my original premise.

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You can't add and subtract things at will in the experiment. My lord it is EXACTLY like talking to Wimp Lo! Yes!

News flash here JoeJoe, EVERYONE is in the process of death. Perfect health is simply te slowest rate at which you can possibly die. You are still in that process even though you are vegan.

Also everyone's body chemistry is different. You speak in childish absolutes. Grow up. Your premise has been completely shown to be false. Just admit it.
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