Duh!

I said about!

Sheesh!

Joe Joe wrote:
"... humans do no have such teeth."
Yes they do. They're the ones that aren't molars. Go smile in the mirror. You'll see them.

Maybe the canines?

No, that is a lie. None of your teeth compare to the sharp blades of carnivores.



Taken from: https://www.vivahealth.org.uk/healthfeat......-or-both

Basic anatomical comparisons show that people have much more in common with herbivores than carnivores – or even omnivores! Just a look at an adult's mouth - let alone a child's- shows that the opening is too small for anything but relatively small pieces of food. We can't even swallow those whole, but must chew them finely and mix them with saliva before the ball of food will slide down the oesophagus. In contrast, carnivorous animals such as cats tear off chunks and swallow them almost immediately.

Our teeth are much better suited for eating starches, fruits and vegetables – not tearing and chewing flesh. What many refer to as our 'canine teeth' are nothing at all like the sharp blades of true carnivores designed for processing meat.

Our jaws can open and close as well as move forwards, backwards and side-to-side. This is ideal for biting off pieces of plant matter and then grinding them down with our flat molars. In contrast, carnivores' lower jaws have very limited side-to-side motion. They are fixed only to open and close, which adds strength and stability to their powerful bite.



-JoeJoe

Absolutely not, those numbers are not "facts" - they are hypothesis. I'm not going to waste my time sitting around debating other people's guesswork. If you need numbers to prove your point you don't have one.

Just have to imagine yourself waking up on a distant plant alone and naked ... not knowing what "fire" or a "knife" is, your first thought is not going to be "let's go hunt lions tigers and bears" ... that would be stupidity that would lead to the extinction of the human race before we even get started.

Instead you are going to notice that your hands are the perfect size and shape to pick fruit off of a tree; it would be as if you realized the fruit on the trees were designed to be food for you.

You wouldn't start eating meat until after you became friends with dogs ... which most likely would have happened about the same time man figured out how to build a fire.

-JoeJoe

See we were born knowing how to eat fruit off a tree, we were taught how to eat flesh.

Natural instinct vs learned behavior.

-JoeJoe

No, we were born knowing how to suckle. Everything else is learned behavior.

I'll see you on that, and raise you one: I'm not going to waste my time sitting around debating your guesswork and ignorance.

JoeJoe YOUR guesswork is OK for you? OH MY! Irony impairment is HILARIOUS!

Except Foosball.

I can see it now... me and my Cairn Terrier happily fromping through the forest and one day; after seeing George scratch his fur (back then dogs didn't have skin) furiously, I thought... 'Huh, I wonder if I rubbed 2 sticks together what may happen?' Next thing you know I got fire and we have chicken for dinner.

Well... I'm entertained.

I love the JoeJoe history of the world. FORGET about science, FORGET facts. No, all that is simply not relevant. Make up your own story and then tell everyone they have been lied to. Oh lord it is pathetic.

JoeJoe is a man who thinks he is a loner...

Blasphemy.

Bobby: I'm older than you are.

Mary: No you're not.

Bobby: I am.

Mary: Are not!

Bobby: I'm nine years old, you're only three years old.

Mary: If you need numbers to prove your point you don't have one.

But he knew it wouldn't last.

I am curious as to how JoeJoe defines what a fact is.

It was Nikola Tesla that said "today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality".

Guessing when man learned to make a "knife", and then guessing when he learned to build a "fire", and comparing the two numbers is "math", not "science".

Science is the observation of nature for the purpose of learning and understanding how the universe works. If they can't show you a working example in nature, they are most likely lying to you.

Newton came up with his theory of gravity when he observed an apple fall from a tree and realized "there must be an invisible force pulling the apple to the ground" ... you don't need numbers to prove gravity exists, and ironically his numbers were all wrong yet they still teach children what gravity is by showing them a picture of Newton sitting under an apple tree.



I have posted facts, they were dismissed because PETA is not an unbiased source. You only want to hear facts that agree with your own biases.



Okay, I don't need PETA to prove my point. Facts are facts no matter where they come from. Here is a link to one of your "science" articles - you'll like this one - it goes back even further than I do and even has numbers in it:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch....../463305/

"It's the first primate ever known: Purgatorius ... an accomplished tree climber-and a vegan. It gave up the insect-based diet of its ancestors in favor of newly abundant fruits and flowers"

"Then Sahelanthropus tchadensis entered the African primate scene ... Nevertheless, meat-eating still hadn't caught on among our ancestors"

"Later on, the several species of Australopithecus ... weren't hooked on meat, either."

"Did australopiths ever eat meat? It's possible. Just as modern chimps occasionally hunt colobus monkeys, our ancestors may have occasionally dined on the raw meat of small monkeys, too. Yet the guts of early hominins wouldn't have allowed them to have a meat-heavy diet"

"It seems that our bodies had to adjust gradually, first getting hooked on seeds and nuts ... A seed-and-nut diet could have prepared our ancestors for a carnivorous lifestyle in another way, too: It could have given them the tools for carving carcasses."

"But being capable is one thing; having the will and skill to go out and get meat is quite another. So what inspired our ancestors to look at antelopes and hippos as potential dinners? The answer, or at least a part of it, may lie in a change of climate ... As the rains became less abundant, so did the fruits, leaves, and flowers that our ancestors relied on. "





So there ya have it, my "examples-in-nature" or your gutter-science ... any way you spin it we come from vegan DNA stock. We are not natural born meat eaters; much like our use of tools, it is learned behavior that most likely began out of necessity.

-JoeJoe

Are you being intentionally obtuse?