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Joe S.
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If you didn't hear the news... Ellusionist just released "How to Make 6 Figures in Magic" by Scott Tokar.

I'm going to come right out and say it: I REALLY hope this project gets into the hands of those who need it. Scott has given me some incredible advice over the years, and he knows the BUSINESS of magic better than almost anyone.

I was in the audience during the taped lecture segment and I believe this course could change some lives for the better:

For magicians just starting out, this could save them YEARS of trial and error. And for successful magicians, the low price makes it a total no brainer. For just a few hundred bucks, you get 18 HOURS of video instruction, contract templates, and much more.

One thing I'm personally looking forward to in this are the interviews. Scott doesn’t pretend to know everything about every magic specialty. So he finds the experts who specialize in areas he doesn't:

Scott hasn't worked cruise ships in years... so he interviews Levent.
For the business of kid shows... he interviews David Kaye.
The business of Bar Magic? Doc Eason
Street magic? Kozmo.
And on and on...

I think we all know magicians who want to do better, but just don't know how. They usually stop by this forum. I hope this helps: https://www.ellusionist.com/how-to-make-......gic.html

PS: There are no affiliate links in this message. I believe a rising tide lifts all boats.
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Are you his client?
How much focus is tradeshow?
WitchDocChris
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There's two "segments" focused on Scott. One is his live lecture (which Joe referenced above), one is Scott talking to the camera.

The one of Scott speaking to the camera is about 3 hours total, and applies to all kinds of performance - not just trade show.

Then considering there's 13 videos which are interviews with other top professionals, mostly around 40-60 minutes as I recall. Each of those focus on the specialty of the person being interviewed. Doc Eason talks bar magic, David Kaye talks children's magic, Garrett Thomas talks restaurants, etc.

I'm not sure how long the live lecture footage is, but it's split into 4 videos.

There is a ton of information from real world experience here.
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Scott is a friend of mine and although I haven't seen this, I know how much he works.
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I have nothing to do with the course or Scott. But I do have a personal experience with him. I've seen him 3 times work at the Castle. Each time he impressed me when he went to his spiel on how he works trade shows. In two of the shows he had anyone call out either a product they like or something they are trying to promote.

I believe in one show the person picked a laundry detergent. He then asked for the person to give details of why he like that particular product. Without a pause, Scott went into a Professor's Nightmare routine mixed with a Ring & Rope segment and instantly worked in all the things about the product that was shouted out by the spectator.

Now, maybe being wary of it being perfect, it just so happened that about a year later Scott worked at the Castle again... the close up room. When he asked if anyone had a product they wanted to pitch I raised my hand. At the time I was promoting and trying to sell my film DEN. I gave him a brief synopsis of the film and what my intent was on making it and selling it.

BOOM! He went right into that combo routine and everything he said fit with what I had just said. It was amazing!!! I was stunned on how easily he made all my facts flow into his routine.

So if his course can get you to be even one-tenth as good as pitching products that way then it's well worth it.

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Hey Sponge,

Scott didn't go in depth on trade shows in the lecture portion that I attended. I assume he addresses that in the "talking to the camera" bit of the course, but I don't know yet.

Is that a specific venue you work? I've seen Scott in action enough trade shows to know he's insanely good in that venue. He's hired me a few times, and I think I once hired him to work a corporate strolling gig with me.

He's working the Castle this weekend, and I'll probably stop by and say hi. I'm not involved with the project but I'd definitely call Scott a friend. Smile
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I've seen the "talking to the camera" portion and I can say Scott delivered a ton of great information about the business of magic. He did not focus on trade show or corporate, but did draw from his real world experience for examples whenever appropriate. I found a lot of great value in that presentation - which had the feeling of Scott sitting across the table, giving you advice on how to take your magic business to the next level. Very well done.

I just started the portion of the lecture he gave in Hollywood. It's accompanied with a slide presentation (also included separately with the bonus items). During the second of what appears to be about a 3 1/2 to 4 hour lecture he dropped a tip about the kinds of businesses that might be good for him to approach that I've NEVER heard before. I can tell you there are gems among the very solid info he's relaying. I'm very happy with this purchase.

... BTW Joe, I read your wife's book, Club Deception - Awesome story... a great little murder mystery with a tie-in to one of the most legendary magic books of all time.

Oscar
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Out of curiosity when you say he delivered a ton of good information what do you mean? Is it information you have implemented? What made the information good to you?

I don't mean give me the exact thing. In bit looking for a short cut, but trying to understand what you mean is all.
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By good, I mean it resonated with me as sound business advice.

Oscar
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Thank you.
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Thanks Oscar!

Really appreciate the kind words. I'm a fan of my wife as well. ;-)
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Thanks for sharing the link to this product. It seems like it may provide good general information and offers what looks like interesting interviews. I think if one is serious about earning six figures though, they should go into it with the mind set that this is perhaps a start and that they will likely benefit from advice much more focused and detailed on their specific cirumstances regarding markets, talents, interests and lifestyle desires. These factors will greatly influence ones business model.

One criticism I have of the ad copy is the very first sentence that reads:
“Scott Tokar is one of the elite income-producing magicians in the world today, consistently earning far over $???,000 a year (We can't give you his actual figures for obvious reasons, and even if we could, you'd never believe us)”.
To me, this is a big turn off and makes me wonder if his style might clash with my own regarding marketing techniques. I’m not sure if it is meant to be tongue in cheek or not, but that alone is a problem. Even if it is, it’s not the place to do so. Anyway, the price is reasonable and reviews of those who have purchased it should be considered, but in the context of specific detailed benefits they share -not so much the general positive or negative comments.
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From just looking at the trailer, this seems like a really good course for anyone who wants to get started with their careers. Lots of good tidbits from people that have actually done it.
I was lucky to have people in my region that's been doing magic full time for years to get my feet wet; for those who don't have that luxury, this is great.
And if he covers how to secure a client on the phone as described, that alone is a valuable skill to learn that'll be worth the price of admission.
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Would this course be good for someone like myself that doesn't do magic full time?
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It's good for anyone who wants to run their magic business, as a business. Whether that's a part time business or a full time business, the tips and systems they talk about will work. However, it is geared towards people who are wanting to do this full time. As with any real business system, you'll have to adjust it to your specific needs and market.
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Thank you!
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I would like to hear from someone who has invested in Scott Tokar motivational material and made a 6 figure income. A copy of your tax return would be helpful.

For me, if you know the guy, friends with the guy, like how he looks and speaks, has nothing to do with the material and information. If you can walk out of an seminar and be on your way to a 6 figure income, that is what is being sold. Does it deliver? I doubt it, and I would bet, that there is not one person that has accomplished a 6 figure income from the lectures or seminars.

Please prove me wrong.
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Iam intrested in this only if scott talks tradeshow does hé?
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Brehan - It covers everything. He actually doesn't talk about trade shows all that much. It's more how to build a business that has a high earning potential, rather than "Go to this place and do this thing and you'll be rich".
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Brehan,

Scott covers lots of different markets and specific business know-how. It's a no-brainer for lots of magicians. But if trade shows are your SOLE concern, you'd be better off with Harrison Carrol's Trade Show University. It's $500 or $600 bucks per year (annual digital subscription), but the info is extremely detailed for that specific market. Just google The Trade Show University and you should find it.

Good luck,
Joe
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