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I really like Cellini's Cups and Balls routine.
I believe he performed that one during his lecture and I read it from "The Royal Touch."

Does anyone else do this routine?

Besides adding/changing a touch or two I am going to be doing this routine right out of the box, I think.
I was hired to work a baseball stadium and I'll be doing this there.

Doing a baseball stadium seems like it is half street magic, half strolling magic.


So who else does this routine?

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Sunny Holiday does it. It is pretty much the Vernon routine. Jim does a great job.

Jim sometimes does a final load under the hat from a topit. It rocks hard!

He uses fruit the size of a softball, although an actual softball would work. Smile

It would be a great routine for the stadium.

Hey Frank, I ordered some Dice from you. Did you get the order? Smile Your dice cups look REAL nice as well.

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Hi Frank
This is a great book, I think better than the video. It is through this book I learned to slow down on my cup and ball routine. Even though my routine is different now, I did learn the most from this book so far. And I was able to make up my own pouch that I like a lot.
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Actually Sunny's is a lot shorter than Cellini's. Art of 2 has the whole routine. Jim's routines is really Vernon's, with some twists...
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Well, I do Jim's Routine and for me it is the best you can do. I mean the best: he took the strongest combination. I played around a lot to get my own routine, but all I tried was less effective. That's all I can say. If you learn that wonderful routine with techniques from all the big masters, you have something for your lifetime.

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I learned the routine from Cellini 6 years ago and have been doing it ever since. I lke it a lot. The only thing I added was some jokes and lines that are mine, but if you watched the routine with the sound off, it's Jim's.

Sunny omits a couple of sequences (about half the routine) in the Street Magic Video.

I like Gazzo's routine as well.

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On 2004-04-27 21:54, tedb wrote:
Art of 2 has the whole routine...koz


Koz,

When is this thing going to be available? It's killin' me. Smile

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Greetings and Salutations,

Koz, I second Danny's motion. And with Danny, Jim and Simon's work going to be available soon, it's boon times for the sharing of busker secrets!

But to the subject at hand. I have also used Cellini's routine. Well ... I started with his routine -- from the London Lecture vid. Once I had it down, I added some Gazzo bits, and a move that I saw somewhere but can't recall the source, and it's now my routine, with some very strong influences from Cellini & Gazzo. It works for me. I've been tuning and playing with it for most of the winter and am looking forward to working it for the public in a few weeks.

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Hi to All, in what appears a very friendly group (this is my first posting).
My routine is now Jim Cellini, although intially I followed Dai Vernon's routine.
I saw mention of Gazzo in previous mail. He is coming to England and I have booked for one of his classes. It appears that other contributors to this group have attended similar, so in brief what do I expect and more important, is there any preparation that I can do in order to gain the maximim from the class.
My thanks in advance for any replies.
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Its done! Now it needs to be replicated. 2 months...

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Experts.. Comments please...

I bypass the french drop explaination patter because I don't like it but...

More importantly, I am trying to work in, instead, the Ammar thing where a ball appears on top of the cup. However, I want to do it in the middle of the routine, a la Carl Andrew's routine. This moment is too huge to pass up (for me).

During the phase (where the french drop patter was) my patter explains that first the balls were vanishing but they can also return. I put a ball in my pocket and it returns and appears under a cup, the second is the same. For the third...

"I put the ball in my pocket and notice that I really do put it in my pocket" (bringing out a different ball, showing it, and clearly putting it back).

"Now, notice my hand is completely empty but if I push the wand through.... and if you'll just tap the back of my hand... the ball is BACK!..... on top of the cup!!!"

And there it is. 3 cups sitting there with a red ball (a felt ball, of course Smile ) sitting on top of the middle cup and you're not near it.

Again, the direction I'm taking is that FIRST the balls were disappearing.... NOW they are re-appearing.
The first two are under the cup, the third is on top and a huge surprise.

This seems ok and congruent to me with the rest of the routine but I'm open to suggestions.



I showed my daughter this whole routine last night with these slight changes I made and she was blown away. Usually she's a bit ho-hum because she's seen so much magic but this routine really got her.

Frank

Danny,

Your dice were sent! I threw in an extra since you're a street-dog because I know one's going to go flying of into a gutter somewhere or a kid is going to run off with one. So instead of chasing the brat down Harvard Square, you can just produce another one out of your nose or wherever and keep stacking!!! Smile

Dice stacking is nice and loud. Should work well on the street to draw attention before your show starts?

I use one of my wooden cups for that exact thing.

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Frank,
I want to buy some of your dice, too, for stacking. I've got a 6 stack cup.

What color dice is good for the street and what color surface to stack on? Any opinions, everyone? I will paint the back of my table the best color. It's white right now. Thanks.

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Whit Hayden sells a stacking board that is a close-up board on the other side. I have not seen it.

Andrew Pinard suggested to me to get a flooring sample from a flooring store.

Aaron Brothers Art Mart sells a "craft board" that is light weight but sturdy. It's smooth wood but needs some varnish or something to make it slick. It is ok, as is, however.

I use red dice.

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Frank,

Thanks a million for the extra Die. You are SO right about shooting one into the gutter! Smile

They came tonight and I've been a stacking fool.

I'm working on the Clark Crandall routine from the manuscript and I think I'm going to use it as my second bit.

James,

Gazzo and Lucky both have "white board" (like dry erase board) backings on their tables for stacking. Velvet on the top and whiteboard on the back with a half inch lip of molding on both sides to catch the rolling balls or errant dice.

Lucky used to close his shows with a dice routine. He only used four dice and a Yahtzee-like plastic cup. He had a double hat load similar to Gertner for a close. Nice act!

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Danny, did Gazzo sell his amp?

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Ron Gisecke suggested calling a countertop place and getting a scrap of formica or whatever.

I did that on my way home from work.
They even cut it to the size I wanted for free.

I glued it using spray contact cement to my board.

Worked great and it was solidly glued within 5 minutes.

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On 2004-04-28 15:14, Frank Starsini wrote:

And there it is. 3 cups sitting there with a red ball (a felt ball, of course Smile ) sitting on top of the middle cup and you're not near it.




Frank:

"Where can one obtain these felt balls?" he asked, (setting up the forthcoming commercial pitch).
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Yes Bill, you can get these felt balls from me.
You can see them on this page

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/balls/balls.cfm

I suggest Red, Green, or Magent (pictured on my site).
Those colors are the most vibrant.

For load balls, any of the colors work, especially when there are several of different colors.

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Hi Frank,

Do you still use the "the Ammar thing where a ball appears on top of the cup" like you mentioned?

Because I also think it is a great phase, and I am also trying to find a way to incorporate it in my routine (which is a hybrid of Cellini/Vernon).

Please let me (us) know!

Thanks.

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Yes. I certainly do.

My post above describes where it goes. If you're familiar with the Cellini routine it should be pretty clear.

Also get Carl Andrews two-cup routine for how/when he uses that idea.
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