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drewster211
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Hi all,

I’m putting together an act based around the paranormal and want a opening trick. I want someone to think of an object/animal etc... and I have already predicted it on an envelope that’s been in full view the whole time. If someone can point me in the right direction that would be amazing!

Cheers

Scott
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On Jun 2, 2018, drewster211 wrote:
Hi all,

I’m putting together an act based around the paranormal and want a opening trick. I want someone to think of an object/animal etc... and I have already predicted it on an envelope that’s been in full view the whole time. If someone can point me in the right direction that would be amazing!

Cheers

Scott


Welcome !

Well, the best way would be Inject by Greg Rostami actually, use it with a gallery of images and you predict the image they randomly swipe to.

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You could also use a similar technique (that's been around a long time) from any word by ben Williams (I think that's what it was called).

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On Jun 2, 2018, drewster211 wrote:
Hi all,

I’m putting together an act based around the paranormal and want a opening trick. I want someone to think of an object/animal etc... and I have already predicted it on an envelope that’s been in full view the whole time. If someone can point me in the right direction that would be amazing!

Cheers

Scott


learn a basic prediction effect. They go a long way. If you are a magician do a simple f###e with object or animal cards

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Two possible solutions you might want to investigate and consider:

"D.I.Y. Divination Discs" in The Wizards' Journal #31, which is based on Ali Bongo's "Divination Discs", shows you how to make your own discs using pictures rather than obscure symbols, and designing sets of discs for every season and theme that you might want to celebrate. Now that you know which animal has been secretly and freely chosen (for example)you can use a method (included) by Tommy Windsor to show that you predicted what would be freely chosen and sealed it in an envelope which has been visible since before the spectator every made the choice.

Alternatively, you can go directly from a free choice of up to 20 different objects ( or animals) to the prediction found in your Three-Way Wallet (also created by Ali Bongo) that I show you how to make from Dollar Store sources which has the chosen object written down. The wallet can be in full view or even held by a spectator the entire time from before the object was chosen. That method can be found in The Wizards' Journal #34 - "Flip Flop Folders".
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Why start your show with a prediction effect?
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Some things that just sprang to mind:

- Art Vanderlay has a nice little animal prediction effect on his Penguin Live Lecture.

- 'Oxford Comma' by Chris Rawlins (from his 'Mind Experiments') could work nicely.

- The use of a solid P***********l !@#$e combined with the principle underlying 'Thought Chunnel' (Joshua Quinn) and 'Leviathan' (Francis Girola).

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What Philemon said. Prediction effects, being generally less plausible to the typical lay mind than (say) memory, telepathy, and influence effects, are more usually (and logically) performed nearer then end of a performance than the beginning.

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Another thing to think about is what is your persona, what you are about and what are you trying to say in your act. For example how did you make your prediction, if indeed it is a prediction. This will influence what "trick" you choose. Then how do you make it convincing. It may be that you haven't made a prediction at all but telepathically sent a message to your subject, the note in the envelope is what you are trying to send.

I hope I am not telling you how to such eggs, and apologise if it comes across that way.

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Scott: For those who are "offended" that you would be breaking some kind of rule or law that an "opener CANNOT be a prediction", it's all a matter of presentation. You could combine a simple "Mutus Nomen Dedit Cocis" mind reading effect, like our "Santa-Mental" from Mini-Mysteries Book 4 on The Magic Nook, in which you rapidly read the thoughts of four different spectators (changing toys for animals if you prefer), and as a finale to that, have the envelopes or wallets reveal that you predicted what each person would choose before the show even started. Tell me THAT wouldn't make a fine opener and influence an audience to want to see and hear more amazing mental mysteries (which is, after all, the main purpose of an opener).

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Or use a svenpad to force.
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First thing I thought of was the method from MMM in the trick called No/No. this allows for you to remove a handwritten prediction or target thought from a sealed envelope or even have your participant open the envelope and remove the prediction. It is one of those things that is so simple I wanted to kick myself for not thinking of it.

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If you are going to use a prediction effect as your opening, then you should probably limit it to something that appears to have a 50-50 chance.

That way it's quite plausible that you just got lucky, and you can then structure your show where you build up to harder ("less probable") predictions.
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I don't remember the exact plot, but you might want to check into Kenton Knepper's Animal Attraction in his Wonder Words.
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Try to use Nick Einhorn new app digital force bag.

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Agree with those who advocate introducing your character as your opening effect.
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If you want to be seen as a typical trickster, sure, there are a lot of good tricks, but if you want to go further not just in terms of personal expression but also in commercial aspects, work in you as the best opener.

People are attracted in our practice first for ourselves. Why you, and not other person?

If you want to take that route, you will learn and enjoy far more than just a trick. You will be the attraction, and if you want to learn about that, there are several books and mentors (inside and outside of Mentalism) that you can take.
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I am surprised that a number of Café members are informing someone on an open forum who has exactly one post how to accomplish something that he may have only seen and wants to know how it is done. No vetting at all. Notice the original poster has not responded to any of the posts yet, or has contributed at all to the Café community. While it is nice to be helpful, we should still be mindful of our obligation to all of our fellow performers to maintain an appropriate level of mystery and discretion regarding our art.
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