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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Just a simple question or two for your opinion. Who, in your opinion, is today's foremost expert on the coins through table plot?
Also, whose routine in that regard would you consider the finest ever put together? Consider such factors as versatility, originality, cleanness, portability, and astonishment potential of the routine in question. I tend to favor Slydini's coins through table as the very finest, but I am biased because I like Slydini so very much. I would like to hear your opinions.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
I happen to like the Kaps thing. Four coins are stacked on the table. The coins are covered with one hand. The other hand goes under...and "SQUASH" the coins go through. No fussing, no proving.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
That's a tough question, and as with all plots there are many good routines out there, each with their own strengths and versatilities for different performance conditions. MY own stand up coins through the table is in my COINvention lecture notes. An earlier version appeared years ago on the original videonics series from West Germany, that hasn't made it to DVD yet.
S.E.M. (The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth) is a sun and moon routine unlike any other. Limited to 100 sets, here is the promo:
https://youtu.be/aFuAWCNEuOI?si=ZdDUNV8lUPWvtOcL $325 ppd USA (Shipping extra outside of USA). If interested, shoot me an email for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com |
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mystre71 Inner circle martinsburg west virginia 1693 Posts |
I'll never forget the first time I seen David Roth's "Squash" routine, seen it on video and my jaw hit the floor, must have played it back 50 times.
Joe
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
You're right, Mike, now that you mention it...that's one I HAVEN'T seen you do. Which leads me to an interesting question...
Do you think you have enough material to, say, put out a volume FOUR of either Knock-Out Coin Magic or Encyclopedia of Sleights? Or enough to say put out a "miscellaneous" DVD including the rest of your gems? Also, have you seen Mickey Silver's One-Handed Coins Through Table? That one really "floored" me! LOL! Doug |
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4665 Posts |
Hey Doug, how are you. Yes, I have a bunch of new material and sleights, but I'm in discussion to make new DVDs with a couple of people, and I still have to put out my big book (boy, it takes a while!) as well. Anythng else I do will be apart from the old series.
S.E.M. (The Sun, the Moon, and the Earth) is a sun and moon routine unlike any other. Limited to 100 sets, here is the promo:
https://youtu.be/aFuAWCNEuOI?si=ZdDUNV8lUPWvtOcL $325 ppd USA (Shipping extra outside of USA). If interested, shoot me an email for ordering information at rubinsteindvm@aol.com |
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Paul Chosse V.I.P. 1955 - 2010 2389 Posts |
I would have to go with Tony. It is not so much the trick. There are many good versions. Slydini created an experience with that trick. So if I take all the factors you mentioned into account, Slydini was unique. His development of that plot was an exercise in character. I can't think of anyone else who comes close to creating a complete magical experience with this one trick.
Goshman did it with the salt shakers, and Lavand with the breadcrumbs, Don Alan with the Chop Cup. But it is definitely Slydini who owns the Coins Through the Table... Best, PSC
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I love to nail those "in the know" with Slydini's "wrong way coins" -- so few ever try it, but it fries.
The clip to vanish the stack of six is another favorite of mine.
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
I'm going to take another path here and mention Jay Sankey's coins thru routine from Rev. Coin Magic. I find the overall effect, of the coin going down through the table, and then popping back up through the table to be very clever, not to metion it makes for some great spectator reactions.
Additionally, the simplicity of the method is mind boggling. Coin from exposed view to CP and through the table, flying shuttle to prove empty hands, and a Ramsay hide and seak to finish up. I found the routine to be refreshingly simple, but very visual at the same time. Most of Sankey's stuff relies upon simplicity of method, which is something I strive for with my magic... that's probably why I dig that routine so much! All the Best, Mike |
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tedski Special user New Jersey 792 Posts |
I agree with Mike on Sankey's version- a real eye popper. What resources exist that show Slydini performing this effect?
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clivealive New user 51 Posts |
I like Patrick Pages stand up coins thro table routine from his trik a tape video.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Somewhere I published a stand up coins thru table using a hoo coin... maybe Tarbell?
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
RE: "I agree with Mike on Sankey's version- a real eye popper. What resources exist that show Slydini performing this effect?"
Not too many Tedski. The Dick Cavett show tapes show Slydini's handling of the coins through, along with many of his other classic coin routines... Aside from that, I don't think there is any other multimedia materials. Mike |
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Randy Sager Elite user 409 Posts |
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On 2004-04-28 12:22, Pete Biro wrote: Yes Pete it is in Tarbell. It can be found in Tarbell #7 |
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
Paul is right, of course, I don't think anyone has ever "made the trick his own" more than Slydini. He made an act of it, leading the audience down one garden path after the other. We should mention for newcomers that when Slydini did the routine, the coins went through the table 6 to 8 times, sometimes even more. Sometimes, they went back up, and sometimes they just went across. Sometimes, his famous "one coin routine" was included.
I don't know if he followed all this with his routine where the six half dollars all go through the table at once, but that much is suggested in "The Magic of Slydini". This handling rivaled the Kaps routine in cleanliness. On another note, does anyone else remember Jimmy Grippo's coins through the table? I recall seeing this on television many, many years ago. This was as simple and direct as can be. A single coin is seen at your fingertips, tapped on the table, and it passes right through. This is repeated. This always struck me as the way a real magician would put coins through a table. Assuming he intended to push one coin through, he would only pick up the one coin. In most routines, all the coins are carefully counted into one hand, and the whole lot slammed down, just to get one to go through. This having happened, the whole counting thing is repeated. None of my routines have ever worked this way. See "'Lonely' coins through table" in Best of Friends, Vol. 2, Lorrayne, my standup coins through table in an upcoming episode of "Palms", and Jonathan Townsend's routine in Apocalypse.
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Rob Johnston Inner circle Utah 2060 Posts |
Roth's routine is excellent.
"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
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jerdunn Inner circle 1734 Posts |
Dean Dill has a brand new, very visual stand-up coins through table to glass routine. He was showing it at the Magic Castle swap meet a week ago, but he hasn't released it.
Another contender in the visual dept. is James Lewis's Coins Through Glass Table. Cheers, Jerry |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Dill must have released it as he sold out of the coins. He did it several times today at the barber shop and it is amazing.
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Roland B New user Paris(France) 41 Posts |
My stand up version will be published in a few weeks.
Rolangicien
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Mickey has something nice where he drops a coin right through the table.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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