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VIEW Special user 687 Posts |
This is a modern classic that I love to perform for corporate, with a very different theme, message and approach.
I've always used the long stick, but I really want to have something that packs a bit smaller. I stumbled across this video of Justin Willman performing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKiQ7uNWias&t=63s Does anyone know if this method is written up in a book anywhere, or available to buy? I just haven't seen it before. I don't want to copy, and have my own presentation already, just want to know if anyone knows if this particular handling is out there, and can I buy a book or the prop? any help appreciated on this thread or in pm. Thanks in advance! |
Rudy Veteran user Maryland 360 Posts |
VIEW
I sent a PM. |
robvh Elite user Calgary, AB 440 Posts |
I enjoy the plot as well. Rob Zabrecky does a great version.
Willman's version in this video packs small which is nice and there's something fun about the initial unfurling. The handling beyond that point is a bit messy though as he has to awkwardly fiddle to remove the chosen card. I think that with some simple audience management he could have the spectator (Jason) hold the prop up while still concealing the backs and freeing himself to remove the selection much more smoothly. Willman's fiddling might lead the audience to a rather simple solution. Zabrecky's is cleaner and more deceptive IMO. The cards themselves are more exposed, handled more cleanly in close proximity to the spectator, and thus inconspicuous. I am curious whether both Willman and Zabrecky developed their own methods and where the trick originates. It's something I would consider doing as part of a show. It's quick, funny, and makes for a good MC bit or bit of fun when welcoming a spectator on stage. |
Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1404 Posts |
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On Jul 26, 2018, robvh wrote: The closeup original is Andy Nyman's Diceman. That prompted Tom Stone's stage version, Of Dice And Men, in his book Maelstrom. |
John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
I don't get the anal part (I didn't listen to the sound). I think the effect (and the way I do it) is BEST performed with the stick and I use velcro to hold the cards on. No problemo.
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Moxahalla Special user Los Angeles 751 Posts |
John C:
Justin's routine and choice of words fits HIS usual college age, party-drinking, 'hip' audiences....its NOT for everybody. The crowd "got it", and loved it. In fact, many might say that it's not as morbid as is the standard "Kill Kill Kill" wording. You'll have to ask someone younger (or street-wise) to explain the "Anal" part...I'm certainly not going to discuss that here. |
John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
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On Jul 31, 2018, Moxahalla wrote: I'm not trying to understand it. I don't care. If it works for him, God bless him. I do what works for me as most performers should learn to do. Do what works for them and for who they are. J |
TStone V.I.P. Stockholm, Sweden 769 Posts |
The final version is still best. Nothing that can snag ot tear, and if you need to make a custom version (like in another language) it can be done in five minutes. I have now sets made up in eight languages.
Btw, Vanishing Inc just released it here: https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/......and-men/ (with cards that are nearly indestructible!) |
The Hermit Veteran user 301 Posts |
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On Jul 29, 2018, John C wrote: Until I got to 'and I use velcro to hold the cards on', I wasn't sure where this response was going. |
Danny Alan 2 New user 19 Posts |
Same here! It took me until I reached...cards on. I am a little slow!
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
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On Aug 22, 2018, TStone wrote: Which book? Would be interested in reading a few different variants.
Protection for mind readers and mentalists: http://tricksofthemind.com
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
There's only one version in there as far as I've read so far, the first effect. Hence asking. ACTUALLY!!!111
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Adam Meier Regular user 135 Posts |
I have Maelstrom and can only find one version (with dice). But he refers to earlier methods he tried before landing on this version. Maybe he means Justin`s version is in one of those "first tried" methods?
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
Cheers Adam, I see in the references in Maelstrom it mentions first appearing in another book but I can't see it for sale on Tom's site.
Protection for mind readers and mentalists: http://tricksofthemind.com
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shomemagic Inner circle Missouri 2232 Posts |
Im assuming Justin Wilman made his set, or do they make an accordion fold holder for SiX 4-x 8 photos or cards if so where are they sold?
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Olympic Adam Inner circle 1259 Posts |
I have owned folders like that before (years ago), believe it was made to display postcards. I also had some to hold CDs. Nothing to say he didn't make his own, just that similar objects exist.
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ronzo New user 68 Posts |
You can buy individual plastic sleeves in many sizes from online office suppliers like Uline. Tape them together with transparent tape.
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ROBERT BLAKE Inner circle 1472 Posts |
Instead of words HUG / KILL
I am thinking in pictures. Heart (love) skull (kill) |
John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
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On Jan 8, 2019, ROBERT BLAKE wrote: The humour is in the impact and directness of hug and kill |
eb02 Special user 680 Posts |
Hi
If you are interesting to use plastic holder for this effect you can order it here: http://www.magic4business.co.il/product/......-holder/ It's the holder only, use your method for this effect.
Eran Blizovsky
www.magic4business.net |
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