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Vlad Grigorescu New user Romania, Bucharest 95 Posts 
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I know there is Max Maven's DVD, NOTHING, but it still implies going to the store and getting some things.
I know there are a lot of books and DVDs with tricks that use regular every day objects. But are there any sources of tricks that use literally nothing? Thanks! |
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Just search on here for "propless mentalism"...
I've asked to be banned
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ed wood Special user 742 Posts
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If only there were. We could call it something like "no prop mentalism" hmmm, must be a better name than that.......
Seriously, check latest and greatest. The place has been hit like a plague of locusts by propless mentalism. 99% is unworkable in the real world but you might find something that floats your boat. For a truly great book that has fantastic material using minimum props check out Scott Creaseys new book. |
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts
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To be honest propless mentalism has come a long way and I think there's a lot of good workable ideas out there.
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Vlad Grigorescu New user Romania, Bucharest 95 Posts
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On Jul 20, 2018, SleepyMagic wrote: Do you have any exact sources you want to share? |
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Stunninger Inner circle 2828 Posts
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Stunninger Inner circle 2828 Posts
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You may also consider looking into some of the work by Atlas Brookings.
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DynaMix Inner circle 1146 Posts
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Stunninger Inner circle 2828 Posts
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You may also consider doing a search for Naked Mentalism by Jon Thompson. There are several Café threads on the different NM volumes, all of which will give you lots of food for thought.
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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts
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My Penguin Live lecture was all about propless mentalism. And despite the reputation propless mentalism has due to the work of some questionable material released by various sources, all my material has methods that work and have been honed through real world performance.
Everything I present in my lecture can be relied upon. Best, Atlas |
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts
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I do find a lot of propless material that has been released to be far too process heavy for my tastes. I understand others make it work for them and that's fine. It's just not for me. Generally speaking, as soon as math is involved I'm out.
Propless classics, though: CMR, suggestion/hypnosis, readings.
Christopher
Witch Doctor Psycho Seance book: https://tinyurl.com/y873bbr4 Boffo eBook: https://tinyurl.com/387sxkcd |
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SleepyMagic Inner circle Hopefully I'll pass my exams with 1646 Posts
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On Jul 20, 2018, Vlad Grigorescu wrote: Second coming by Fraser Parker and Ross Tayler. You can force a name proplessly for example and then reveal it in anyway you want. Sleepy |
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts
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While there are several approaches to propless effects, one thing to consider, which has been suggested above, but not really addressed explicitly, is the need to define what sort of material will work for you.
What are the abilities you claim? Are you a telepathist? A psychometrist? A precognizant? An expert on esoteric lore? A lightning calculator? So, if I were to claim to be able to read someone's thoughts, but my process has to involve complicated numbers with mental multiplication, that doesn't really ring true. If I claim to read thoughts and have them concentrate on a word, that does ring true. There are methods to generate a personality reading on the spot, many of which can work fine in a shut-eye setting. I consider these fairly bulletproof. If I ask you for your date of birth and then tell you about your numerological profile, that's actually pretty interesting to a lot of people. Here, I'd be the expert on esoteric knowledge. With a hidden process, I might hold an item of yours and tell you about what the impressions I get from it mean. There, it is psychometry. Also reasonably bulletproof. If I have a folded paper and ask you for a word, then open the paper to show the word, that's precognizance. I don't do telepathy or precog propless. There are creators who have come up with some rather good approaches to both of those, however. Well worth pursuing the links given above if you are into that. But in order to save yourself some money and a lot of time, do consider what exactly you are looking to do. What abilities are you really trying to demonstrate? This will guide you to routines and resources that will be of use to you. I would also consider the possibilities for impromptu, not just propless. In this case, it means you can use items from the environment. Business cards being a really good example. Can you grab one and get the participant to write a word or thought on it? If so, you can do more in the way to telepathy than you could with just a totally verbal process. Anyway, I hope that helps, even if it doesn't point you to more resources. -Patrick |
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Vlad Grigorescu New user Romania, Bucharest 95 Posts
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On Jul 23, 2018, Mr. Woolery wrote: I am looking for one on one, direct(no readings and vague stuff like that) effects that you could do with no props(pockets empty, no wallets, no writing, maybe just an already written prediction on you). Math or other process can be something acceptable if there is good context for that. I know I am asking for holly grails but I hope to get things that at least get close trough good context and presentation. A good example could be a well constructed equivoque. |
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Mr. Woolery Inner circle Fairbanks, AK 2149 Posts
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Okay, what I meant was do you want to appear to read minds, predict the future, or influence thought processes? Or something else entirely?
My own approach is not propless at all, but I like to give the impression that I have odd knowledge that allows me to guide the participant to do amazing things. Although I don’t do B’Wave, that’s an example of what I mean. Through an act of imagination, the person sitting with me is able to determine the only card face up in the little packet. And the others turn out to be blank, so it can’t be sleight of hand. I do some stuff with a pendulum that has them finding a target object, emphasizing their own abilities. And other things I don’t think relevant to this discussion, since they use props. Patrick |
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1167 Posts
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If you happen to see a persons wallet open with their Drivers Licience -(as a cashier-ot -next to a customer- etc. Glance at it - see where they are from - address- city - state- putting your hand to your head(?) mention - "I see ,feel, etc- State ?? street?? etc. " it had wowed a few when I did it - JUST FUN
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BizarreRich New user 65 Posts
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Since reading a thread on the Café about Mark Elsdon and how he has treated some of his customers I am reluctant to recommend his books. However, there is no doubt that he has produced some great propless mentalism and I do suggest you look out for his "Conversation as Mentalism" series of books. I would just not buy them direct from him but get them from any of the large online magic shops.
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The Hermit.jpg "View Profile") Veteran user 301 Posts
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Invest in the Safwan Papers. Particularly the effect 7. I forgot what I paid for it, maybe 15 bucks. That one effect alone will justify the cost. It's as good as propless gets.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18038 Posts
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Years ago I put out "Naked on a Beach"... But you got to use stuff on the beach...
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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mindhunter.jpg "View Profile"){kind=tracking} Inner circle Upstate NY 2280 Posts
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On Jul 31, 2018, The Hermit wrote: Thank you. 7 has now been released as a stand-alone, by Amira and I, as "Seven Plus" which is the original routine, as well as additional handlings and thoughts. (Links in my sig) I am very pleased that you like it! Bryn
Bryn D. Reynolds, Author of:
"The Safwan Papers" & "The LOGAR Scrolls" Mentalism ebooks - PM any interest. My artwork: https://darkmountainarts.com |
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