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NeilS
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You can use blank cards (make sure there is no telltale bleed of ink) or business cards.
You have a choice of handling, with the spectator putting the card in the stack or yourself. At the moment this is an download but a printed version is planned and, from a spectator's pov, everything is clear, unhurried and looks very fair and with no mixing.
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Just put an order in. Clicked on a link from an email Atlas sent out, just noticed from the link on this thread I paid a different price, have I screwed up?
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When will a physical.version be available
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Also, to people who have this, will this replace your imp devices and p**k devices?

Thanks
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Also, to people who have this, will this replace your imp devices and p**k devices?

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It replaced mine. That's part of why I'm so confident in Underhanded.

Best,

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When I received Underhanded I thought about how I could use it and came up with a routine. I am willing to share this with all who buy Underhanded and, if interested, please drop me a PM.

As proof of purchase, let me have the first name that appears on Page 3, the Introduction.

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Just put an order in. Clicked on a link from an email Atlas sent out, just noticed from the link on this thread I paid a different price, have I screwed up?


Hey Atlas, if you look in here. Did you get an order a couple of hours ago? Like I said I think I may have ordered through an old link and now my computer wont let me send any emails. Stupid computers!
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I've ordered, just waiting for the product to be sent over via email. Looking forward to this, and I'll review at a later stage.
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Okay, I took the plunge.

When I first started to read the explanation, I was a bit disappointed because the core method is the same as a Docc Hilford release (one that is much less expensive, I might add). However as I read on, I realized that there is more to Underhanded, namely the time and motivation for the p**k, and the fact that you are clean immediately after you get it. I actually did not care for the Docc release in question, but I do like Underhanded.

I can definitely see using this. The fact that you don't need to do any clean up at the end is especially nice and differentiates it from most of the other business card stack p**ks. That and you don't need any extra ruses to do the actual act, it's nicely built into the natural actions of the method.

This works well with double blank cards, so if you are in the Creasey MMM school, this will fit right in.

It is a bit expensive IMO. It's not the kind of thing where this is some super special secret that you'd like to keep out of the public's hands, it's just a nicely routined p**k using known methods. But then, cost is really relative to how useful something is to you. If I end up performing this regularly at gigs, then it will have been more than worth it. It does have some nice advantages over other similar methods, so I will definitely give it a try.

Further, there are some nice effects included. Atlas' mini Q&A is pretty cool and teaches some other strategies that you might find useful.

It's definitely a very good release. Whether the price is worth it to you is going to be relative.
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I'll post full thoughts later, but this is simplicity itself and so effective thanks to the details Atlas has added.

I LOVE his "triple epic fail" approach. I know that will leave an amazing impression on the spectator. It seems impossible.

His Q&A is also wonderful and uses a mix of methods which totally cancel out the possibility of one ahead.

Overall, it is a great booklet with loads of valuable information!

Madison
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Here are my thoughts :

GOOD:
You can do this at any time - if you have business cards on you
You are not in a hurry to peek
You get a full peek
The move is not hard
One more method to getting a peek
Appears Natural - should glide passed the spectator if executed smoothly.

NOT SO GOOD :
I have seen this idea before
You will have to be a little careful if you're surrounded

BAD
This is overpriced.


I am sure that Atlas is sincere when he says this replaces other peeks, electronics etc for him. I don't think that will be true for everyone. This is a nice addition to any mentalists skillset but the price is ambitious.

7.5 / 10
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Thanks to everyone above for sharing their perspective so far, and I'm especially pleased to hear all the positive comments both here and via email.

As far as pricing is concerned - I completely understand that pricing is entirely subjective. More so when a buyer in one area of the world is held thrall to the vagaries of the currency exchange rate in another. If this saves you on a peek device or piece of electronics, it is a drop in the bucket. And so perception of value for money is always arrived at by an application of a different standard based upon who you are.

What I can say is that since 2012, I've always offered my work at a discount upon release. If you want to be kept up to date on releases, feel free to sign up for my mailing list using the link here:

http://eepurl.com/duVQ8z

The only emails I ever send to this list are announcements of new products and a link to purchase them at a discount. And, barring any unforeseen complication, you'll typically only get an email once every six months to a year.

Thanks again for all the great feedback!

All the best,

Atlas
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I just want to post something in addition to my review.

Atlas contacted me and offered me a refund to bring the price to what I think is fair ,or a one of his releases.

Instead of taking a refund or a free book I would like to instead take this opportunity to publicly thank Atlas for being a gentleman, and understanding that spending money on magic is not as easy for some as it is for others. That is integrity! This means a lot to me , especially in light of the travesty that was Comprised/breached.

I wish more creators, consultants and emo -fan boys would follow the example of Atlas.

Thank you Atlas. No refund or free book is required.
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Wow, great business acumen and exceptional customer service from Atlas. Love hearing these stories.
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Now I would certainly never say an item is overpriced as I respect every creators right to value their work as they see fit.
But I can say that I was a bit surprised when I saw the price of this, and I don't think I am the only one.
However, I am sure that to many it will be more than worth it.
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Wow, great business acumen and exceptional customer service from Atlas. Love hearing these stories.


You love hearing these stories ? Why didn't you speak to the rubbish we received with compromised/Breached? As I remember it, you were on the side of the shills
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I use that material so have no beef with the creator.
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Quote:
On Aug 6, 2018, C-suite magic wrote:
Wow, great business acumen and exceptional customer service from Atlas. Love hearing these stories.


You love hearing these stories ? Why didn't you speak to the rubbish we received with compromised/Breached? As I remember it, you were on the side of the shills


Just ignore his / her posts.
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I do.
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I just finished reading Underhanded and I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised. To be honest, when I read what the basic move was I said to myself, "There must be more to it than just that", and it was! Atlas goes to great lengths to explain not just the move but the psychology behind the routine and all the fine details that make it work. Besides the basic routine and the P**k, Atlas describes 2 more routines; Triple Epic Fail and Epic Q and A.
I loved both routines and to be honest, the ideas described in those routines can be used even without the Underhanded p**k (in case you still have a different preference). I remember Atlas sharing a story about a stage version similar to Triple Epic Fail when he was performing at a college (I am not sure where I remember this from, it might have been from his podcast with Looch and Ken Dyne) and I've loved the idea ever since. Whatismore, besides method, I really liked Atlas' approach to Q and A and I was inspired to explore this idea further in my own work.
In conclusion, I will try this p**k method on some occasions, probably with a few changes to make it suit my performance style better. I am sure it will fly by lay people as it is simple to execute but deceptive at the same time but I got a lot more than just a p**k from all the additional context. I am happy I picked this up. Smile
Good job Atlas and Joshua
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