As far as I know, most of us that ordered are still waiting. Actually, I've given up at this point. I was holding out hope for quite a while but I don't think it's going to happen now.

Sorry to hear that

Comment from Barry Khoo on Kickstarter a week ago:

Hello, Dave or Kickstarter!!!

It's now over 4 years...and you have already procured every item and it's just sitting in your home waiting for you to deliver to us backers.

We all know that you are having some financial issues, we can help you by paying again the shipping fee to help you and you help us by shipping out our backed "Cubism: Maestro".

Looking forward to hearing some good news from you or Kickstarter???

Thank you!

There was a similar comment at least a couple of years ago, along with no response. It would still be nice to get them but as I said over a year ago now, I don't have any expectations of Dave fulfilling his side of the deal.

I don’t believe Dave has any intention of shipping them to those that paid for them. I’m quite certain he considers the stack of boxes in his garage as income for the future. Why would he ship them to purchasers and do the right thing when he can sell them to others and make more money from them?

He’ll wait another year or two for the dust to settle and then begin wholesaling them to Murphy’s. Do you think Murphy’s will care a bit about the history behind them? Of course not.

And maybe this is the reason he's not sending them. He decided to take the grief of people complaining about not fulfilling the orders rather than take grief about the product itself.

Another comment on Kickstarter from Douglas Illusion:

4 YEARS AND NOTHING. DAVE FORREST IS A FRAUD AND A CRIMINAL FOR TAKING OUR MONEY HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW

On Kickstarter a new comment from Christopher Parker:

"I approached Dave on FB and he said he’s waiting for keys to a new flat then Cubism Maestro will be sent out.

Waiting to see!"

It looks like the same thing happened with a trick called The Light. Lots of people ordered from Dave Forrest but never received their order. Lots of conversation about it on Facebook currently.

NEWS

Today on 'The Light' FB thread when a customer asked about their Maestro set Dave replied "The Kickstart project is a separate issue and is being dealt with"

There is hope yet.

So was this a scam?

Well, I am still waiting also. I think Dave should be banned from the magic community. Ripping off fellow magicians is a no no.

Just wondering if a year later we can confirm this was a scam?

I guess that the campaign was not started with the intent to scam everyone, but then things happened, either with the production or other things that interfered, and he's now given up on it. In the end, a lot of people were not provided what they paid for and have not received any information about what's going on. Whether it started out as a scam or not, the end result is the same.

-Brian

I was one of the unlucky few to invest in CM. However, I also heard David had a mental breakdown, so the empathetic side of me hopes he's doing well and forgives any wrong doing as I don't think it was intentional.

Dave was once a great magician and creator. He used to put up YouTube videos with some free effects, and he seemed like a really nice, engaging guy. As a creator he put out quite a few products and most of them were really good. He hung around with Liam Montier and Cameron Francis. He was well regarded.

But something happened.

Who knows the real story about the Kickstarter campaign. They are not guaranteed to succeed. Sometimes they are created with the best of intentions but fail and leave their backers with nothing. That is the nature of Kickstarter and people need to be prepared for that. But one would hope in that case that full transparency would be forthcoming and it seems that didn't happen. Dave claims to have received some really hateful email from people over it.

Also, his full52.com went under. And for me, his real sin was that for years before that he was still taking orders that went unfulfilled, and he did not respond to inquiries about that on either his professional or personal avenues of communication. I had to dispute a purchase with my credit card company for that.

So after going from a successful, admired creator and magician to a failed businessman, with tons of hate from the magic community for ripping them off, it wouldn't surprise me if he had a mental breakdown. It's all such a shame.

Don't blame the The magic community!!!! Plain and simple he rip people off POS.

Apparently Dave has been sending out a few Cubism maestros! Only took 5 years!

Had a message today asking for my address to send out Cubism Maestro to me.

Apparently, I'm a little late to the party but I purchased Cubism (not Maestro) via E-bay. I'm very impressed with the quality of the props (the m4gn4t, while weak, seems fine in context). I tried some other m4g balls and they seemed much more "powerful" with this cup (does that make sense?) I think that's a matter of the cup/dice feature of this set. In any case, does anyone have the video download of the instructions? it appears that Full52.com is dead, and my message to Dave Forrest at the Facebook link has been unanswered. It's not a big deal, there are YouTube videos of the routine, but if anyone has it that would be awesome!!