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eryanic Special user 683 Posts |
Hello people...
I did some research regarding books on gambling...and these are the few I've found.. 1. Expert at the Card table by Erdnase 2. At the card table by Ortiz 3. Gambling Scams by Ortiz 4. The annotated Erdnase by Ortiz 5. Scams and Fantasies with Cards by Ortiz 6. Cardshark These 6 books seem to be the most popular ones out there...which do you guys recommend? I read that Gambling Scams teach you how to CATCH a cheat, but now how to BE one...Only books like Erdnase's "expert at the card table" and "annotated Erdnase" teach you how to be a card cheat...I'm looking for a book that teaches you how to BE one... Any advice? Thanks. |
saturnin Special user Montreal, Canada 964 Posts |
Eryanic wrote:
"I'm looking for a book that teaches you how to BE one... Any advice?" Hi, Do you mean a REAL cheater (conman, hustler, etc.) or to learn gambling related sleights and/or routines ? Please specify, as these are 2 different things! Ronnie Lemieux Montreal Canada
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Mel Toyer Loyal user Luton, England 216 Posts |
Eryanic,
The only book in your list that was meant to teach people how to BE a card cheat is 'The Expert' by Erdnase. You are right in thinking that 'Gambling Scams' won't teach you many methods but what it does teach you are the tip-off's and give-aways that people look for when they suspect someone of cheating. 'Annotated' is more of a reference book that points you in the right direction to more up to date methods that are described in 'The Expert'. The other books you mention contain both magic and gambling routines. If you want people to believe that you are an expert card cheat then you can't really go wrong with Darwin's books and while the effects described are meant for entertainment purposes there are a lot of moves and sleights described in Darwins books that originated at the card table. Mel |
Pebkac New user 64 Posts |
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On 2004-05-04 10:57, eryanic wrote: If you're looking to be a card cheat, you will be hard pressed to find any books that are worthwhile. Your own searches have revealed very little. This is for good reason. Magicians are supposed to be an exclusive club, but magicians have NOTHING on cheaters. The only way to really learn to cheat is from other cheaters, and from doing your own cheating. You will find it far easier to get a "secret" out of a magician than a cheater. You might as well be a woman trying to be a member at Augusta. As magicians, we seem to have our own communities to discuss magic; and though we like to think of some type of magical underground, the cheater community is REAL underground. The difference between a magician and a cheater is you know a magician is "cheating" you. Also, a magician can make up his own rules. If I need to cover my pass/shift, I can swivel or twist the deck or my body. Try that at a card table. I suggest you try cheating first. After you get beat up the first couple of times, you can decide if you want to stick with it. And believe me, you very likely will have to travel down that road. I also think it worth asking how often do you think you will get to touch the deck and deal anyway? Look into holdouts.
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