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will lane
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I am looking at getting an ID. I'd also be fine with buying spray and making my own, but I think I would be more confident in a professionally-made deck rather than one I've made myself.

I see a bunch of the Bicycle branded ID's for around $7 USD, which is fine. The only higher prices I see are for more expensive decks made into ID's (Memento Mori, etc.). I would prefer Bicycles but I am just not sure who makes the "best" ID with Bicycles.

Also, do you perform a deck switch if you are continuing in a routine? Or do you do ID towards the end of your routine?
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You can get an Invisible deck in red or blue back Bicycle Brand cards from Madhatter Magic for $5 plus postage. While you are waiting, I suggest you learn to perform the effect with pure equivoque using a regular deck of playing cards. It's good practice in improving your equivoque skills to get you out of a tight situation in the future where you don't have your ID with you.

If I mention where you can learn an equivoque version of performing the ID, Senor Fabuloso would tell on me to the moderators of the Café and I would be in big trouble, but you know where to find me if you really want to know.
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Some of the IDs sold by the major distributors and dealers today aren't as good as they used to be. Many are now roughed TOO STRONGLY - With excessive roughing, they will be hard to separate with a natural handling, even with a very light touch. Your home-made deck may be better than the commercial ones, and you can experiment to get the degree of roughing that suits YOU best. You can also experiment with roughing only the top, or middle, or bottom of each card, creating a zone that grips tightly and a zone that separates easily - You might prefer that, and it's not available on the commercial decks. Experiment with both a spray and a roughing stick.
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The best way imo by far is to rough the top and bottom and leave an untreated slightly larger band in the middle Smile
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Yes Emory. I agree. The same is true with Brainwave decks. You have to almost peel one off to separate them.
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You mention you would be more confident in buying a professionally made ID - Emorys suggestion (I concur as it worked for me) that spending the dollars for a brick of (insert preferred card here - bikes in your case) and trying out different R&S applications is a great way to build up your confidence, and you'll know the cards better too once you have worked with different R&S application techniques. It is a great way to fill in a few hours one evening, or a wet Sunday afternoon. There are many great principles of R&S on the Café, have a hunt Smile

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Phoenix has an invisible deck made with SF spray and it works great.
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Will in my opinion the memesis better fluid invisible deck is the best there is.

Heres the link http://www.mimesis-magic.com/mimesis_deck_effects.html

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Why messing with roughing spray? I use Harry Robsons stick that's more clean way
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I bought a bicycle branded ID, the "typical" one I think from Murphy's Magic with instructions from Daryl. It was on sale for $5.50 from USA Magic Tricks so I figured I would try out the effect before I get roughing spray/a roughing stick.

It works really well IMO. I've shown it to a few friends so far and it fries them. I am not sure how long this ID will last, but I will definitely be looking to the solutions above soon.
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On Oct 1, 2018, Emory Kimbrough wrote:
You can also experiment with roughing only the top, or middle, or bottom of each card, creating a zone that grips tightly and a zone that separates easily - You might prefer that, and it's not available on the commercial decks.


Actually, it is. The Mimesis "fluid" IDs only rough the middle (as explained in the video here):

http://www.mimesis-magic.com/catalog/ite......0975.htm
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On Oct 19, 2018, gismo wrote:
Why messing with roughing spray? I use Harry Robsons stick that's more clean way

Although I agree to a point, I have never had a problem since long before the sticks came out (and before SF "was a thing" as well as similar sticky spray "equivalents" for lack of a better term) just using the old Testor's Dullcote - that magic shops simply removed the label and replaced it with a had printed paper label reading "Roughing Fluid".

I think the sticks are good for "on the fly" applications but I have not got the pressure thing down and end up putting too thick a layer on. I know with some time and patients, I will get it down eventually but for now (as for years before) It is just as easy (and cleaner) to re-spray a deck in my basement on my folding spray grid. It is easy to apply, doesn't take long at all, dries quickly if applied correctly and lasts for a good bit of time / performances.
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I prefer to use Harry Robson's stick. Been using the spray for years! This is so simple and applies where I want it to be.
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With Robson's stick you are not limited on preparing playing cards. Check it out on business cards, post cards, file cards ...

btw. Try Chicago Opener with the stick, it turns to a self working miracle (prepare only the odd card on picture side)
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I always seem to end up with the ID decks that are far too strong. I'll definitely give Harry Robson's roughing stick in the future.
gismo
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If you apply the Robson stick on the grey area, your ID works much better.
You can separate the cards easier, as if they fully prepared with the original ID coating.

Click here to view attached image.
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That's exactly how I set mine up gismo. Spraying is so messy and that Robson stick easily allows you to make custom application area's. Love that stuff.
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As poof daddy alresdy mentioned. The Phoenix ID with SF is really good, . it is very easy to use, there is no Problem at all to separate them yet they are safe to spread.
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Wow thanks gismo I will try your method. Thank you for the graphic!
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