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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
Which version do you actually perform the gimmicked version or one of the none gimmicked versions which do you think plays better in the real world as both have their merits ?
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helder Inner circle Portugal 1064 Posts |
Gimmick version. My favorite is Doc Eason. I’ve tried others but this is my favorite. Whatever version you do I think that’s important showing the 2 selected cards in two halfs of the deck, like Doc Eason does. In terms of presentation Joshua Jay have nice touches, especially at the end of the routine, what he does and says makes the effect stronger.
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1773 Posts |
I agree with Helder: Doc Eason's version is fabulous! I saw him performing it for a newlywed couple, and the reactions were amazing ...
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Neznarf Inner circle NY then AZ now 1840 Posts |
Take a look at Hula Fusion.
I like and use it.
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
Thanks for your input just to clear up any confusion I'm familiar with Both Doc Eason's handling and Carl Andrews Hula Fusion which I have actually performed as well as other handling's, personally for the gimmicked version I prefer Matthew J Dowden's handling which Doc himself even gave the thumbs up and I quite like EZ Waltz but I can't remember whose it is...the reason I like those versions is because they don't actually use a table which is a big plus but the trade off is with both those versions you don't actually get to show the selections in two different halves of the deck.
Going back to the question we have 2 votes for gimmicked and 1 vote for ungimmicked |
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
Sounds like you're familiar with the routines I'd say are the most commercial. Between the free download from Doc Eason & Garrett Thomas on Anniversary Waltz, Dowden's version on Party Animal, and Carl's Hula Fusion, I think you have a nice compilation of some of the best routines, each with it's own positives and negatives. Personally, since I usually perform this without a table, I'm more likely to use Dowden's version, or if I want to cut to the chase and skip the turning over in the pack phase, I'll use the version Garrett teaches on the free download.
If I were working from a table, I'd probably just stick with Doc's classic version, just with the addition of the DB gaff for the ending to do the "monte move." Hula Fusion is my backup in case I ever feel the need to perform the effect and don't have the necessary gaffs on hand. One other effect I'm quite fond of that is sort of related to Anniversary Waltz is Darwin Ortiz's Signature Effect. So tl;dr - I actually use Dowden's walk around gaffed version the most, but I like knowing I could use one of the others in the right circumstance. |
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helder Inner circle Portugal 1064 Posts |
Chris Congreave have an interesting version. I also use Hula Fusion when I don't have the gaff at hand.
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
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On Nov 2, 2018, helder wrote: I'm also familiar with Chris's version which is once again clever but sort of drifts away from the plot a little if performing for newly weds which is who I'll be performing it for mainly. |
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
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On Nov 2, 2018, sgtgrey wrote: At the moment I must admit I'm leaning towards Dowden's handling especially as I've already used it in the real world and it went down very well, as you say though they all have their merits. What I like about EZ Waltz is that the spectators find each others cards which I think is very strong moment before the cards come together in the middle of the deck, finishing with both signatures ending up on just one card however with the gimmicked versions such as Doc's etc the spectator gets to keep a very unique souvenir which is hard to beat. |
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
I'd say the DF ending is powerful for when you know you'll be performing the effect and makes a wonderful souvenir. Also, there are other effects that have similar impact with a slightly different plot - as far as cards are concerned Matthew Underhill's ONE comes to mind. I've personally found Dowden's to be a workhorse for performing the effect regularly when there's not a table around or I want more visibility overall. I think it just makes sense to study or at least take a look at multiple options and then choose what you think best fits your performing conditions so that it fits YOU the best. Sounds like you're already well on that path, though!
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Gene B Regular user Sacramento, CA 193 Posts |
Is Josh Jay’s routine on his Dvd’s?
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helder Inner circle Portugal 1064 Posts |
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On Nov 3, 2018, Gene B wrote: You can find it here: https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......o-cheek/
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
Just another thought if one were to use a DF blank deck do you think the DF blank card with their names on both sides would make as magical and unique a souvenir as the a regular DF card with their names on it or not as you've just used a deck consisting of DF blanks ?
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sgtgrey Special user Austin, TX 839 Posts |
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On Nov 5, 2018, warren wrote: I don't think it becomes quite the same level of magical souvenir, but such effects have been done before - check out Suzanne's Blank Ambition (also Gregory Wilson's Point Blank) - a double blank ACR with signatures jumping similar to Tattoo You or the like, and in Suzanne's ending the blanks all become printed cards at the end, which is nice. Those are indeed magical and powerful routines, but I don't think the card itself at the end is considered an "impossible object" quite the same as anniversary waltz. That's my own 2 cents, anyway... |
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puggo Inner circle 2022 Posts |
I used to perform the gimmicked DF version regularly, first Doc's version and then the Dowden version (both great). I then developed a way of performing with just a DF (no DB) which was published in fund raising project shared here on the Café a few years back.
In recent years, I've been using an ungimmicked version. The reason for this is that I got to see something Shaun McCree had said when explaining his ungimmicked version (called 'Second Inkstain' I think) which made me think - I visited a couple I had performed AW for and they had the DF card in a small frame, but you could only see one signature (from memory, Shaun actually described if the card was kept in a wedding album, it was better to have the date on the back and both names on the front). However, I'm now working Paul Green's excellent version called 'Coming Together' that uses a stranger card (with a tweak or two). The stranger card seems to add to the impossibility but allows for a FASDIU deck and the stranger card to be openly introduced. Charlie |
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warren Inner circle uk 4138 Posts |
Thanks both for your input....i think I agree that the DF is a better impossible object, I'm familiar with Suzanne's routine I think I saw it Reel magic which I subscribe to but I'm not really a fan of using an ambitious phase to an anniversary waltz routine for couples.
Charlie I have Paul green's In The Trenches DVD and think that routine is on there so I'll have to check it out again. That is an interesting point that Shaun raised regards only one signature being visible if the card is kept in an album or frame, the only problem I see with having both names on the front and the wedding date on the back would be from a presentational point of view it doesn't make sense that the date joins the two names although openly introducing the stranger card might allow for something presentation wise possibly. Another two I have looked at is Gary Jones Scooped as performed by Lee Smith on the ICandy DVD and Chris Congreave's effect called Sign Post which is on the Trick Soup DVD. |
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
The Waltz project with Garrett Thomas and Doc Eason is on Reel Magic
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pepka Inner circle Uh, I'm the one on the right. 5041 Posts |
I perform an ungaffed version with a double blank deck. This was originally an independent invention and then I found similar routines by Greg Wilson and Seth Kramer. Many times in my early days of performing this, people were convinced that the 2 cards were stuck together. Once I even had someone take the double faced card and they had actually split it apart. They were convinced that I had just stuck both cards together back to back. So now, I actually do place 2 cards in their hands. The effect is different, instead of having 2 cards become one, one signature jumps off of a card and onto another.
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jcroop Special user 771 Posts |
My experiences have been similar to pepka's. Every time I have done the DF version spectators have tried to see if the 2 cards are stuck together. One person said 'You must go through a lot of decks of cards' doing the trick..
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KokoB Loyal user 257 Posts |
My favorite Waltz is Doc Eason & Garrett Thomas version both have amazing talent..
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