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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4385 Posts |
I have this and love it! I can't vouch for how long it will last. It may need to be repaired at some point in the future, but it is made out of metal that has been welded together. I suppose it might be possible for the welds to break and I might have to fix it. However, that aside, it works REALLY well.
For those who say that it is hard to balance cards on it without the cards falling. The key to this is to use this gimmick with a deck of cards that has been broken in for a while. Some performers use a new deck every time they perform. I don't. The other key is you have to hold the spread "up" a bit. If you don't hold it correctly, then of course, some cards may slide off. A tip: I didn't see this on the explanation video, so perhaps I missed it, but I do an overhand shuffle where you grab a pile of card from the middle of the deck and shuffle them on top. This allows you to keep the gimmick hidden under the cards. I use this as a "throw away". I just pretend like there is nothing unusual about a spread floating in the air. When called out on it, I simply say: "What, your deck doesn't do that?". Given it's not really intended to be a "routine", the more you make it a "throw away", the stronger it becomes in their mind. As for the price, if you compare this to making it yourself (if you knew how), you would probably find you would be paying yourself less than minimum wage for the time it would take to put this together. It is NOT priced too high. Really nice product. KJ |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Nov 20, 2018, spaceman-sam wrote: I’ll be sticking to this review. |
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MazingMandy Special user Has tolerated the trolls here for 676 Posts |
Can you allow a spectator to choose a card from the spread while suspended?
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philipsw Loyal user 206 Posts |
In theory yes - but in practise I think that would be hugely high risk of blowing the whole thing
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
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On Dec 13, 2018, philipsw wrote: And your money. |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4385 Posts |
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On Dec 13, 2018, MazingMandy wrote: I use this as a "throw-away". I don't reveal the method, but I have had many people select a card after using this. Personally, what I do is spread the cards as I'm talking, then I take my right hand away to tidy up a few cards, then I hold the spread in two hands again. There is close to zero chance they are going to even touch the gimmick, and I have never had anyone discover it. Of course, they suspect something is going on, but the way I do it, it gets more of a laugh because I pretend like nothing happened. On a side note, I have nothing to do with the creator, but I think it's a bit rude to insinuate that someone is throwing away their money. If you think it's not worth the money, don't buy it, but don't pass judgement on how others spend their money. |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4385 Posts |
One more note: If you combine this with a marked deck, you have them select any card, then you hand them the deck and have them shuffle their card into the deck as you ditch the gimmick. All attention is on the deck you just handed them.
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MazingMandy Special user Has tolerated the trolls here for 676 Posts |
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On Dec 13, 2018, 1KJ wrote: Thanks for the info. I said nothing about people wasting their money |
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1KJ Inner circle Warning: We will run out of new tricks in 4385 Posts |
MazingMandy,
I wasn't referring to you. I don't have any issue with anyone's opinion. If someone thinks it is too expensive, that's fine. However, some people seem to think they need to convince others of their opinion. |
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Cardmagic12345 New user 81 Posts |
Sploat by alexander smith is a good inexpensive alternative to this.
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
Just received this today. It’s exactly what I expected, and seems pretty solid based on initial trials. I don’t have the skill set to make something like this myself, so consider it a good purchase and an upgrade from the double reel I already had. Not really a trick in itself, but I’ll be relying on it to punch up a longer routine I’m planning on doing at tables on New Years Eve. Will report back.
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DavidKenney Inner circle 2178 Posts |
Here is my review with both the "good" and the "bad" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9gjf150Eb8
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
OK, I “reinforced” mine straight away per the instructions. Nonetheless, after less than 30 minutes of practicing with this, the welds broke at two ends. I like the idea and general design of this gimmick, but the craftsmanship and durability are pathetic. I’d like to see this rereleased using a builder who knows what they’re doing, with a free unit sent to everyone who took a flyer on this clever but poorly executed misfire.
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spaceman-sam Regular user 113 Posts |
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On Jan 1, 2019, MaxfieldsMagic wrote: Mine did the same thing after less than 10 extensions of the gimmick. Very poor quality. I sent mine back and got a full refund. The item is not fit for purpose. |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
If they do a version 2.0, one suggestion would be to include an adjustable finger ring connected to the base of the device in a way that pivots. That way you could really anchor to your hand the part that goes under the deck before the spread. As long as the ring isn’t too tight, the ditch would be no more difficult than with the current gimmick.
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JimBeta New user 11 Posts |
I have no experience at all in making tricks but should it not be possible to reshape the texture of the cards, with some kind of product, which makes the cards stick togheter if you spread them but does not affect them when you want to take a card out?
Is there really a reason for there to be a gimmick in the first place? I think about a Svengali deck which you use to force a card. when you spread the cards you get all different cards, yet when you pick one out you will always yet the same card. Is it not possible to do this "impossible" spread with some kind of substance you put on the cards which make you able to spread them out in a impossible way without losing the functionality of the actual deck? |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
That would be awfully tough, I’d imagine, with just sticky stuff, layered scales or even magnets, if you wanted to get much of a horizontal spread. For it to be built into the cards, you’d almost need some sort of tongue in groove system built into thicker cards, such as a tarot deck, or into packets of cards that appear that be spread themselves but are really four or five units that can lock and slide. The cards themselves wouldn’t be examinable, whereas with the Suspenz gimmick (assuming they figure out how to make one that doesn’t break right away) allows you to keep a regular, examinable deck of cards in play.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On Jan 3, 2019, JimBeta wrote: I can’t tell if you are serious or joking but no, there is no substance or mechanism like that available and if there were I can only imagine how expensive it would be. No offense to you, but that sounds like some crazy theory you will occasionally hear from a spectator, such as having magnets or trapdoors embedded in your hands. |
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts |
There is a magnetic deck out there that does a similar spread effect but can’t remember by whom now.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On Jan 3, 2019, pegasus wrote: Are you thinking of this http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S19467 Regardless, a magnetic deck is not examinable and cannot immediately be used as a regular deck which is the point of Suspenz, so if you are attempting to duplicate that then it is critical that the deck be normal or appear normal. |
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