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Adammcd Regular user Greensburg PA 132 Posts |
I am looking for good quality sources on Flipsticking and Sleeving.
I was also wondering if these are good tools to have in the restaurant setting. I know angles are an issue. But I want to be able to perform a plethora of different seemingly impromptu effects. Thanks for your help Adam
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Karl Miller Elite user 494 Posts |
Hi Adam. The flipstick move is in print and on several videos. You can find it on the Cultural XChange series or Chris Korn's new DVDs. In print, the only source I can think of is Cellini's The Royal Touch. Maybe some of you guys out there will help me out here. I know I've seen it several places in print.
As for sleeving, you can find methods on the Cultural XChange series as well. Other sources include videos by Carl Cloutier, The Art of Close-up Magic by Lewis Ganson, several methods in Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and on the Videos of Secrets by John Carney. Again, this is just off of the top of my head, so I'm sure I missed something. As for angles, you are pretty safe in most venues, but try to avoid being surrounded. But, if you combine the Flipstick move with good sleeving technique, you don't have to worry about that. It does take considerable practice to do well, though, but boy is it worth it! Very visual stuff! I have been working quite a bit with sleeving and Topits recently, and have found all of the above sources helpful. Hope this helps! -Karl |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
The Flipstick was 1st published in Tarbell 7. I do not know if there was a routine or just the move.
The only truly magician presentation I have ever witnessed was the unpublished routine by Paul Gertner. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
The first time I saw the Flipstick was with Jay Marshall in Amsterdam. We were watching the master himself... Flip.
We were totally baffled. We were nailed. We had dozens of ideas as to what he was doing. They were all wrong. I suggest you DIG and find whatever you can by the originator, Flip Hallema himself. By the way - when we first met Flip he had a FULL and I do mean FULL head of hair. Said he got a nerve disorder when he first planned a trip to the USA and his hair all just fell out. He liked the look, however, and decided to keep it.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Karl Miller Elite user 494 Posts |
Thanks wmhegbli, that's the other place I saw it. It was also published by Flip himself in an issue of the Magical Arts Journal. I'm not sure if that was where flip originally published, but it was by Flip.
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Adammcd Regular user Greensburg PA 132 Posts |
Thanks guys. Any more info on these two types of moves is greatly appreciated.
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
The routine in Tarbell 7 is the one Flip does with the wand and a scarf. The full Flipstick routine is a killer, and ends with the wand vanishing, then the carrying tube becomes the wand, then the wand apparently becomes the tube, but the wand is INSIDE the tube. Wow.
The only place it's all described, as far as I know, is a set of lecture notes, presented comic book style, drawn by Flip. It's called "Flip's Quick Trick Strip" and it's worth its weight in gold. Anyone know where to find it now? Sorry, got a little off track. I have used parts of the Flip routine (which is really intended for stage use) tablehopping. You have to be careful, because the stick really flies. I use it to end a ring and wand sequence. I striking vanish the ring, then flip vanish the wand. The wand reappears behind the ear of a nearby spectator, and the ring reappears on my finger. It's a stunner, and a fine example of "Covert juggling". For impromptu work, it's great with a pen, or pens.
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
In the 70's, I saw Flip lecture and he performed the effect using a flute and a pipe cleaner-type of device that he used to clean the inside of the flute. It was a visual masterpiece. Tim Conover also performed a flipstick routine using two wands and a FISM Flash (before anyone knew what that was), which was incredible.
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Wizzi New user Scotland 8 Posts |
I find the posts on the flipstick interesting, as I had never heard of it. As far as sleeving is concerned, I attended Carl Cloutier's lecture in Blackpool and he was amazing, a true master using a variety of objects.
Pat Page in my hero for the topit. He can fool me every time even when I know it is coming. Both sleeving and the use of a topic perform well in restaurant work and are an indispensable part of any close-up magician's arsenal. |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
Cloutier performs the flipstick move combined with sleeving. If he vanished a magic marker in his lecture, you witnessed it.
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
Jim Pace's book "A" Material. Jim teaches you how to do the above post's effect with a sharpie marker. Same thing as what Cloutier does. Very beautiful, I do it all the time.
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Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
Nobody has mentioned Jonathon Neal Brown. He used to do a terrific routine. I also remember seeing Kevin James do a flipstick routine in the mid '80s.
Also, Jeff Hobson has a short flip stick routine that he explains on his video/DVD. Ron |
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dogwood86 Regular user Vancouver 124 Posts |
I have alson learned Jim Pace's vanishing pen...then realized I don't perform much in a jacket...to bad.
The March Issue of Magic Magazine, had Rune Klan using the flipstick and other moves in a routine with a pen and a coin. Nathan |
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
If you get Kevin James' lecture tape. He has a lot of flip stick moves. Changing a dagger to a rose, pouring the color out of a stick, and more! Give it a look! Thanks Ron for the reminder about Kevin James material.
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oagwood Veteran user Pleasant Hill, CA 392 Posts |
Flip sitck is one of my favorite moves, I do it all the time with pens, straws, drumsticks...etc. Its great. I was inspired by Flip's routine in Tarbell and that really got me going.
Greg Wilson's on the spot has a little bit on it, the video itself is worthwhile to see how he incorporates it into a pen routine. oliver |
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Lee Darrow V.I.P. Chicago, IL USA 3588 Posts |
The Fl!pstick (proper spelling) move, when done well, can be one of the most startling things around. I use it during my ring on wand routine and then as a penetration of the wand through my thigh. People actually scream at times when the wand simply vanishes.
The real key, IMHO, is the speed which you have to do the move with. The finger moves MUST be crisp and your shift to the "hands-free" hold, should be smooth and clean, when doing the vanish. This is a highly underrated effect. For sleeving, well, I had tried for years to get the knack of sleeving. Then, someone bought me a copy of Rocco Silano's book "If It Fits, Sleeve It!" and one photo in it brought the whole thing together for me. I can now sleeve from the classic palm, pumpkin seed and several more. Check out the book. It's worth it for technique, if nothing else. "Encyclopedia of Sleeving by Chanin," by the great Jack Chanin, has some wonderful ideas for the use of this wonderful technique as does the magic & Methods of Ross bertram, who was a past master of this concept. Jay Marshall's video "Table Crap" has some useful ideas buried in it as well and the Cloutier material is essential. Hope this helps! Lee Darrow, C.Ht.
http://www.leedarrow.com
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Adammcd Regular user Greensburg PA 132 Posts |
Thank you all for your insights and reccomendations....
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David Goldrake Loyal user Las Vegas 226 Posts |
Dear Pete,
Flip did not keep the hairless look because he liked it. He had no choice... Regards, D |
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Magicmaven Inner circle 1235 Posts |
I have volume four of Flip's serries, produced by L and L. It discusses in depth on the flipstick, variations, and different uses. I definately think that it is a useful tool.
He talks briefly here and there about sleeving, but don't get the dvd if you want just help with sleeving. I can't wait for Shoot to put something out on his handling of this fabulous move.
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doug brewer V.I.P. 1142 Posts |
California magician John George has a terrific instant flipstick/sleeve move that he's used for years (with a small pool cue he uses as a magic wand) and this is taught on his tape Close-up Magic Vol.1
He also has a killer instant reproduction from this position too. Find him at http://www.johngeorge.com |
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