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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
Suffocation, is one of the most brutal deaths one can experience.
Even the idea can make some queasy and uncomfortable. So how would it be if you were buried prematurely before having really died? Today we think the inadvertent possibility of premature burial inconceivable but back in the 18th centenary, it happened more often than you might think. This lead to the development of the "Safety Coffin Bell". A bell hung above the coffin on a pulley system with a cord attached to a finger of the thought deceased. If after burial the person was still alive, the bell would ring and the person unearthed. This is what has lead to the expression "Saved by the bell". I have one of these bell here. Taken from the grave of one Mary Ann Bellwood. Ironic how bell is in Her name don't you think? Many Ann did actually die and was never uninterned however, they say, that this bell is strangely connected to Miss Mary. And under the right circumstances if we believe and listen carefully, She will make herself know to us by ringing the bell. Out of respect for the dead let us stay very quiet while we try contacting Mary Ann Bellwood. Mary are you here? This is a spirit bell presentation I thought of after seeing an episode of "Lore" Feel free to use it in any way you see fit. Comments, additions, constructive criticism, all are welcome. Click here to view attached image.
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ManxBull Regular user Isle of Man 116 Posts |
There's a very good, and rather sinister, cemetery bell routine in Roger Curzon's book 'Dark Matters', available from Lebanon Circle.
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Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4694 Posts |
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
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On Nov 24, 2018, ManxBull wrote: I'm sorry, are you saying that my exact post comes from the work, your citing? If it does, I'm totally unaware of it and would never try passing off someone else's work, as my own.
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In response to the above post: I am enjoying this thread and read through all the posts and I don’t believe that Manx was accusing you of anything just adding to the thread - adding another resource to help
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ManxBull Regular user Isle of Man 116 Posts |
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On Nov 24, 2018, Senor Fabuloso wrote: No no, not at all. Roger's piece is quite different. I was just pointing to another approach to the story, keeping the theme going. |
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
Manx thank you. I didn't know of the work in Dark Matters but thought it might be possibility that I had actually, thought of something already in existence. It has happen to me before. Not accusing you of anything and appreciate the contribution Just looking for clarification was all. Thank you.
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the Sponge Inner circle Atlanta 2771 Posts |
Mark Strivings put out a booklet with an act revolving around the coffin bell:
https://www.magicbookshop.com/p/sale/the-death-act Nick created a box and props with this theme: https://dark-artifacts.com/product/deathwatch/ People on here talked about using the Wenger bell with this theme. |
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
So there we have it. Once again what I thought was an original idea, turns out to have existed for quite some time. Live and learn I guess.
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the Sponge Inner circle Atlanta 2771 Posts |
But it's a good idea though.
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Mind Guerrilla Inner circle Queens, NY 2670 Posts |
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On Nov 24, 2018, ManxBull wrote: Do you have a link for this? Thanks. |
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kcalB Special user Took me 16 years to make 999 Posts |
Marks book is called The Death Act
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the Sponge Inner circle Atlanta 2771 Posts |
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On Nov 26, 2018, Mind Guerrilla wrote: just Google it; a couple places show up. |
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ManxBull Regular user Isle of Man 116 Posts |
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Do you have a link for this? Thanks. I got mine through Lebanon Circle, but Dan must have sold out as it's not listed there any more. |
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1178 Posts |
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On Nov 26, 2018, Mind Guerrilla wrote: http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/roger-cur......915.html
Bob
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
It also lead to the phrase DEAD RINGER.....
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Winks Special user Arizona 753 Posts |
And the phrase, graveyard shift
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Nick Birch Regular user Holmfirth, UK 160 Posts |
As well as the phrase ‘saved by the bell’
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1178 Posts |
Maybe and maybe not...
"There's no evidence to show that anyone was ever saved by these coffins or even that they were ever put to use, and there's a similar lack of evidence of the phrase 'saved by the bell' ever being used in that sense prior to it having been used in other contexts. In fact, the expression is boxing slang and it came into being in the latter half of the 19th century. A boxer who is in danger of losing a bout can be 'saved' from defeat by the respite signalled by bell that marks the end of a round. The earliest reference to this that I can find is in the Massachusetts newspaper The Fitchburg Daily Sentinel, February 1893: "Martin Flaherty defeated Bobby Burns in 32 rounds by a complete knockout. Half a dozen times Flaherty was saved by the bell in the earlier rounds." There are other popular etymological fallacies related to death - notably dead ringer and graveyard shift." https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/saved-by-the-bell.html "Dead ringer" originated from horse racing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_ringer_(idiom) "We have debunked the saved by the bell and dead ringer myths previously, so now let's take a look at 'graveyard shift'. Given that the derivation of the phrases 'saved by the bell' and 'dead ringer' had nothing whatever to do with burials or graveyards, it might be thought that 'graveyard shift' could be dismissed without further investigation. That may be a little hasty. Those phrases may have had nothing to do with bells being attached to coffins to guard against premature burial, but such devices did exist and were occasionally used. Given that some people had sufficient fear of being buried alive to invest in such coffins, it is at least plausible that they would also have made arrangements for someone to monitor the grave so that their coffin's bell could be heard in the event of them ringing it. Nevertheless, and as usual with phrase etymology, plausibility and truth are only distant relatives. The Graveyard Shift, or Graveyard Watch, was the name coined for the work shift of the early morning, typically midnight until 8am. The name originated in the USA at the latter end of the 1800s. There's no evidence at all that it had anything directly to do with watching over graveyards, merely that the shifts took place in the middle of the night, when the ambience was quiet and lonely. The earliest example of the phrase in print that I have found is in the US newspaper The Salt Lake Tribune, June 1897: The police changed shifts for the month yesterday. This month Sergeant Ware takes the morning relief. Sergeant Matt Rhodes the middle and Sergeant John Burbidge the graveyard shift. The 'graveyard watch' version of the phrase was normally used by sailors on watch - hardly a group in a position to supervise buried coffins. The graveyard link was made explicit in this definition, offered by the American mariner Gershom Bradford, in A Glossary of Sea Terms, 1927: "Graveyard watch, the middle watch or 12 to 4 a.m., because of the number of disasters that occur at this time." One more nail in the coffin of folk etymology, let's hope, or can I still hear a faint bell clanking in the Internet graveyard? https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/graveyard-shift.html
Bob
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Awesome stuff Intrepid! Thank you.
As fun as false history is to tell, the vague truth like the real origin of "Graveyard Watch," can be just as grimly intriguing. Like the late Ricky Jay showed us performance after performance, tell the right story and the magic becomes miracle.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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