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padre rich
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George Clooney's father told him,"you're never as good as they say or as bad as they say."..........
God's grace rocks! It makes a good cups and balls routine look pretty boring in comparison.
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As a kid, follow your dreams.
As an adult, chase them.

When performing, appeal to an adult's inner child, and appeal to a child's inner adult.
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Advice as a Beginner?

It's not the trick or routine.
It's the performance ...

An artist can turn a sketch, melody or routine into a masterpiece.

In short, take that effect, and "make it your own".
Put a spin on the ball.
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PM me for any support I may be able to offer ...
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Read Card College cover to cover.
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This is the advice I've been giving myself after three years of working on magic: don't try to learn everything at once. Choose one or two tricks that are within your current skill range or will stretch it a little, but not too much. Work on them for as long as it takes to perfect them before moving on the other tricks.
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On Sep 18, 2019, kShepher wrote:
Read Card College cover to cover.
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Well, if you INSIST! But. I don't do card tricks!

I read ERDNASE, when I was 14, but decided that a teenager wasn't going to succeed as a gambler.
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Probably obvious, but the last phrase of my message should have read, "before moving on *to* other tricks."
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On Sep 19, 2019, Bob G wrote:I
Probably obvious, but the last phrase of my message should have read, "before moving on *to* other tricks."


Ha! I thought that you were saving ink! (I mentally inserted the "to". (heehee)

Your post made very good sense!
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Dick: Funny! And thanks.

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I inadvertently forgot to include this quotation in my post of December 9, 2018, above.

Of course, I didn't get this "advice", personally! I read it, when I was a teen.

"Those who give themselves to ready practice before they have learned the theory, resemble sailors who go to sea in a ship without a rudder," -Leonardo Da Vinci
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Here's another bit of "advice" that I didn't get, personally, but, read in DARIEL FITZKEE'S "The Trick Brain" (pp308)"

"...I must insist that tricks are but tools. This eagerness to add new tools to the workshop, at the expense of learning how to use the tools we already possess, definitely results in overcrowded workshops, but unskilled artisans."

I "deposited" that in my "memory" bank!
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On Dec 8, 2018, danaruns wrote:
Things that were said to me by mentors, and which stuck with me:

*"I AM the coyote." -- Pop Haydn



This quote doesn't make much sense without the context:

"I don't tell people stories about the coyote--the Trickster. I AM the coyote. People tell stories about me."
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Work slower.
"But there isn't a door"
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Do not hurry to act!!!
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Practice Practice & Practice.....my wife is very patient and a great 1 person audience.
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Pay attention to the audience they will provide you with material to make your effects memorable. Go over your act afterwards it will improve your performances.
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My advice would be:-

Prepare and practice your patter and presentation just as assideously as you practice the mechanics of the trick. Know exactly what you are going to say at any given moment in the performance without having to hesitate and think about it for one moment. Also know exactly what to say if something goes awry, and if you rattle it off as though you'd just thought of it you'll get credit and laughs for that.

If you want to know just how bad tricks can look without good patter and presentation just checkout YouTube and cringe at the inadequacy of the average presentation resorted to by so many spotty young bucks who think they know it all.

What's the point in spending countless hours perfecting the 'double knickerbocker kickback manoeuvre' if you can't put the effect across in an amusing and entertaining way. You'd be better off spending those wasted hours on patter and presentation and just stick to a sleightless simple trick; your audience will love you the more for it than yawning with glazed eyes over a tedious display of knucklebusting that they can't appreciate anyway.

Of course if you reach the stage where you can be technically brilliant and entertaining at the same time then you're home and dry, but just remember that many successful entertainers use simple but sure fire methods because they place a premium on pleasing their audience rather than pleasing themselves.
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