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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
Thank you Frittentick for your very informative response. Olly
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RNK Inner circle 7479 Posts |
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On Dec 26, 2018, Frittentick wrote: I have this coming in the mail and I also have Rubicon which I use in very close up situations. The only thing I make sure is that Spectators are at least about three feet back & I have never had a problem. Well, one time I saw spectator lean over and Whisper to someone as if he might have noticed. That is one time out of hundreds. If the gimmicks 4 Venom are thinner than Rubicon and I do not see a problem with using it and close up situations.
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Frittentick New user 98 Posts |
Quote: Since you quoted me I like to say that I talked about Real Cube and not Rubicon.
I also have Rubicon which I use in very close up situations. The only thing I make sure is that Spectators are at least about three feet back & I have never had a problem. Quote:
If the gimmicks 4 Venom are thinner than Rubicon and I do not see a problem with using it and close up situations. I do. Rubicon is a closed shell while Venom are single. Do they match up perfectly? What about the noise? I already mentioned we need an unbiased review to end wild guesses. |
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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
I agree Frittentick and that is my concern I hope we get one soon . Olly
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RNK Inner circle 7479 Posts |
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On Dec 27, 2018, Frittentick wrote: Unbiased? Not sure what you mean as I don't know Henry. All I am saying is that after watching the instruction video the display with this looks much better than Rubicon, much more normal. And if you think using Rubicon a close-up situations would not work then you obviously have not performed it for people close up. I did, hundreds of times and as I stated before, only one time someone thought something look out of the ordinary. And all I am saying is that the gimmicks for Venom on video anyway, look better than Rubicon. Time will tell as I should have mine soon.
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Frittentick New user 98 Posts |
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On Dec 27, 2018, RNK wrote: And if you think using Rubicon a close-up situations would not work then you obviously have not performed it for people close up. I did, hundreds of times and as I stated before, only one time someone thought something look out of the ordinary. Last time and just for you: I'm talkin' about Real Cube and not Rubicon. Reeeeaaaal Cuuuube NOOOOT Ruuubiiiicoooon!!! Got it? |
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Steven Leung Inner circle found the Magic Rainbow after 1614 Posts |
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On Dec 24, 2018, Frittentick wrote: I respectfully not agree. The PS indeed have even more strange movements when compare to Venom, at least this is the same feeling to me and many magician friends that I have known, not to mention that the clicking sound / noise of PS gimmick created. The reason I said Venom is good enough for Magic Castle close up room and NOT Parlor Theatre because this is the basic idea of how to define an effect can be perform close up or parlor. If you doubt that, which mean you are looking for effects that were suppose to be seen at MICRO distance, such as 5-10 cm within eyeball... is that what you mean for close up magic? In any case, the pre-order of Venom has been sold out last week and I don't even have a chance to grab one, and wish you good luck on your cube magic my friend.
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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
Has anyone actually got this yet as the thread has gone very quiet?
Is it any good, and is it suitable for real world close up magic performances? Thank you. Olly |
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warren Inner circle uk 4124 Posts |
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On Jan 6, 2019, Oil&Water wrote: Good question and hopefully they can give us some comparisons to other similar effects. |
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Frittentick New user 98 Posts |
In the Facebook group I've read that some received Venom but no review yet.
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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
Thanks for the update guys, the fact that there is no review makes me think this may not be as good as first thought.
I sincerely hope so though as still waiting for mine, Olly |
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Deano88 Veteran user Lincolnshire UK 377 Posts |
I received mine last week , it is as good as I thought and for me personally will replace perfect square. I’ll write a proper review once I have had time set it up and to practice it a bit first
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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
Thanks Deano88 would you say it can be performed close up and strolling. I mean the gimmicks when attached look very convincing? Olly
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Frittentick New user 98 Posts |
Thanks, looking forward to your review. Regarding strolling. table hopping: You'll need a reset after each performance.
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warren Inner circle uk 4124 Posts |
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On Jan 6, 2019, Frittentick wrote: If it needs a reset can it be done in the open and how long does the reset take ? |
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dylanxtay Regular user Singapore 152 Posts |
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On Jan 6, 2019, warren wrote: As for the reset, it takes less than 4 seconds to get everything ready for the next performance, plus it's entirely possible to reset it infront of the spectator too. The tutorial video has a portion dedicated to the reset, so no worries for that.
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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
Thanks dylanxtay what’s your opinion on very close up performing ie do you need a certain distance not to see the gimmicks?
Thanks again, Olly |
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dylanxtay Regular user Singapore 152 Posts |
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On Jan 9, 2019, Oil&Water wrote: Hi Oil & Water. It'll depends on how you define the term "very close up", but the gimmicks are so well made (much like the rest of the Rubik's Dream line) that you'll have to know what you're looking out for to begin the search. I'll say that depending on your performance situation and audience management skill, you can handle the distance you can keep with them. Situation is pretty akin to Gregory Wilson's Rubicon, in which in my opinion, the effect is best performed with a given distance, but Henry has shown that it's very possible to perform the effect surrounded in a closeup situation. In the tutorial video, Henry even shares his tips on having both of the cubes solved (thus ending clean), hence any doubts that your spectator might have would have been cleared through that.
Dylan Tay
Magician & Cardist Welcome to #theBLACKseries, a collection of my Cardistry work. Only at: http://www.instagram.com/dylanxtaylor |
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Oil&Water Elite user 468 Posts |
Thank you Dylan very much, understood and it sounds excellent. Olly
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tada2018 New user 3 Posts |
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On Jan 6, 2019, Deano88 wrote: Hi, how did you get Venom Cube? I have been asking people who I think got one. I'd be very glad if someone tells me how to get Venom Cube. |
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